[Discussion] New Photo App in Nextcloud 18

[chrisnc]

I’m also so disappointed in the upgraded NC18 not supporting the old “/index.php/apps/gallery/s/tgdF3ix…” and redirecting to NC Login! This is very bad if you shared a lot of those links publicly.

The only unsatisfying way is to resend/edit all those links to “/index.php/s/CiBy…” folder views if that is even possible (it is virtually impossible to remember all links send by messerngers or email)

Downgrading to NC17 or doing a Gallery App hack seems not worth doing it. I really hope this will be available again in upgrades soon as I really have low understanding if functionality in main Apps (even if not true core) are dropped without BIG! warning before upgrade is proposed. This is not good for my feeling for NC as a real and fine replacement of the Big Corp. Clouds.

[alfred]

@chrisnc

I really hope this will be available again in upgrades soon as I really have low understanding if functionality in main Apps (even if not true core) are dropped without BIG! warning before upgrade is proposed. This is not good for my feeling for NC as a real and fine replacement of the Big Corp. Clouds.

Something like a transitional period and prior announcements seems to be necessary to fix such problems.

[Sanook]

@chrisnc

This is very bad if you shared a lot of those links publicly.

Now you know why i have switched to Synology DS220j with Photo Station and DS photo for Android.

[Sanook]

@alfred

Then a bug report here would be appropriate

Don't break Fotos App of NC 18.0.4

[R0Wi]

This is fixed with files_photospheres version 1.0.9. Please also update to at least NC 18.0.4 to receive the corresponding viewer-app patch. See https://github.com/nextcloud/files_photospheres/issues/47 for more information, cheers.

[Ferdinand]

Thank you @guddl, for the instructions - it worked like a charm.

Like @sz22 said, a github discussion seems to rule out support for external storage anytime soon.

Respectfully, this led me to wonder how you guys use Nextcloud?

I’m all new to Nextcloud and is wide open for suggestions and comments, but after a little bit of pondering, I ended up with a split personality:

• In my LAN I use Samba to access my files, because I can mount the shares in my local file system and have quick and hassle-free access to all my files.
• Outside my LAN, and from the iPad, i use the Nextcloud web interface.

In order for this to work, I must access my files using the External Storage app, and then the new Photos app won’t show anything at all (I don’t really keep anything locally)

Is this weird? How do you do it?

• All files locally, file system access through WebDAV
• All files locally, file system access through syncing
• All files locally, file system access directly, with automatic occ files:scan
• All files locally, file system access through some other means
• All files locally, no file system access
• Some or all files in external storage, accessing them outside Nextcloud
• Some or all files in external storage, not accessing them outside Nextcloud

[anon9582441]

I would mount any external sources in a local path accessible from nextcloud.

[Bodenseematze]

I didn’t upgrade from NC17 to NC18.0 because of the change to “Photos” app and didn’t follow the whole discussion about the changes / fixes.

Can somebody (how also likes the “old” gallery app) tell me how the situation is currently?
Is it now a good and usable replacement and it’s worth an upgrade?
How is the situation for NC19?

[devnull]

Here a link to shared photos in the NC 18.0.4 version (tab.digital).
versionstring":"18.0.4"

https://nc.nl.tab.digital/s/wAR9weHRsm6yBHn

I think one bug was solved in a minor release before NC 18.0.4 .
But for thousands of photos it is a bad app.

You also can try nextcloud 18.0.4:

a.) https://try.nextcloud.com
user: get random, password. demo
b.) https://nextcloud-demo.rackspeed-cloud.de
User: nextcloud-demo , Password: nextcloud-demo

Perhaps someone can share photos with the new NC 19.0 - version.

[Bodenseematze]

Thanks for your suggestions.

I tried in the 18.0.4 demo versions which you posted.
It seems that the Photos app still flattens all pictures from all directories to one big view.
That’s absolutely not what I want - I liked the way the gallery app did it - show the folders with some extracted thumbnails from the content of the folder.
And only show the pictures of a folder if you’re in that folder.

I have a really big bunch of photos in a lot of subdirectories (and these are shared between different groups of people).
And I don’t want such a flattened picture view - that does absolutely not make any sense to my environment.

Isn’t it possible with the photo app to get back that “folder” view?

So I still have to stay with NC17?
Will it ever be “fixed”?

[devnull]

@Bodenseematze

It seems that the Photos app still flattens all pictures from all directories to one big view.

Yes.

@Bodenseematze

That’s absolutely not what I want - I liked the way the gallery app did it - show the folders with some extracted thumbnails from the content of the folder.

Yes, too

@Bodenseematze

And only show the pictures of a folder if you’re in that folder.

Or perhaps sorted by date (days)

@Bodenseematze

I have a really big bunch of photos in a lot of subdirectories (and these are shared between different groups of people).

If you use the folder (shared link or file-app) the structure it is not soooo bad.
Example: https://nc.nl.tab.digital/s/JAxd7JcGWT7QtG9

@Bodenseematze

Isn’t it possible with the photo app to get back that “folder” view?

I think you must use the file-app and not the photo-app.
You can preview the pictures also in the file-app and scroll throw single folder.

[Bodenseematze]

That are absolutely bad news

I wonder if I’m really member of a minority group who wants the old behavior back?

[devnull]

I think not.

nextcloud/photos

[xph]

I just signed up to tell others how much you f*ck’ed up with this new photo app.

“Angry” or “pissed” are not the correct terms to describe what i feel like.

It might be okay to change an app in a stable update channel - but one better makes sure, that the new app at least can handle the same settings as the previous one did. You did nothing like that and published what i call a pure failure. It’s simply bad development without proper user information about what’s going on and what things will change. It’s bad in every way.

Your app really messed up my whole image administration (i’m running NC 18.0.4 atm).

All my public gallerys are gone. And i can’t even greate new ones the way i want to, because you still don’t provide a gallery view and no lightbox image viewer for public links. Do you really think someone wants to download an image just to see it? Seriously?

Your new app also doesn’t care about my .nomedia settings and shows just every file that is a graphic format. Every. Single. File. Guess what happens when one uploads some Software including it’s multiple graphics resources in a folder where normally no photo app should ever check the content.

Your Thumbnail generation is plain bullshit - when i click a thumbnail, i can’t predict what image will be shown. Sometimes it’s the photo of the selected thumbnail, sometimes it’s something completely different. Seems random to me. I can’t even re-build the thumbnails as i haven’t found a corresponding setting in the user interface.

The main reason why i switched from Owncloud to Nextcloud years ago, was because NC was way more stable and reliable than OC back then. While updating OC and the installed AddOns really was a pain in the ass, NC was just nice. And for many years i was really happy with it.

Now, you did this.

And you are perky enough to state, in some issue-thread about this new app, that the missing features are “technically hard to realize”. Seriously? The features that already existed for years in the old app are now hard to realize? You better stop publishing apps, then.

For months, i’m waiting for some update that at least resolves the more annoying problems with your photo app. Nothing happened.

I’m fed up now. I’'ve bought a home server and i’m currently creating and re-building my photo administration there. If that’s finished, i’ll just delete Nextcloud and never recommend it to anyone again, as i did for years.

It’s really sad to see usually good projects going down the drain like that. The only people that’ll keep using your sh*t are the ones that doesn’t know the difference.

Originally, NC was meant to be a safe place to store data online. What you did here is absolutely counterproductive and harms the whole project.

You really f*ck’ed up.

I’m out.

[alfred]

Reading this thread, it would be good for Nextcloud to release the old Gallery app to the App Store like the old plain Text editor alongside Text so people can use both in the meantime. Deprecations should be on top of the changelogs too probably.

[guddl]

I just want to remember, that it is possible to use the old gallery app in NC18.x

[Discussion] New Photo App in Nextcloud 18

Hi together. The “old” gallery app is running on my NC 18 What i did: cd /var/www/nextcloud/apps git clone https://github.com/nextcloud/gallery.git cd gallery/js/vendor/dompurify/src wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cure53/DOMPurify/1.0.11/dist/purify.js -O purify.js sudo -u www-data php /var/www/nextcloud/occ app:enable gallery After that the gallery is working. No cache cleaning or “occ maintenance:repair” Edit: It takes 2-4 seconds before the main gallery view is shown.…

[xph]

@guddl:
Yeah, that might work - if one has terminal access to a server working with git. Usually, shared hosting clients don’t have both.

Well, another “solution” would be to just program a photo app the way one likes.

I mean - of course NC admins should be able to do more than just click buttons. On the other hand, NC is intentionally designed to work exaclty like that.

So i’m not sure what NC users might do - but frankly, i don’t care anymore.

Waiting for fixes - a common thing. Waiting days, maybe even weeks - all fine. But… months, without any mentionable process? That tells a lot about the development cycle and the priorities.

[YurkshireLad]

I’m confused, how do you organise photos into folders? I don’t see any option to create folders in the photos app. I created a folder under Photos in the Files app, moved the default photos into it, but these changes don’t reflect in the photos app?

Edit: creating the folder in the Files app was reflected in the Photos app, but it took some time.

[YurkshireLad]

Never mind, it seems to me that something is fundamentally broken.

• Fresh 19.0 install
• Installed Android app
• Deleted all photos in Android app
• Refreshed the photos page in my NextCloud site - no photos
• Added one photo in Android app that was auto-uploaded
• Reloaded web page - one photo is visible
• Clicked photo in browser, photo is shown full screen
• Clicked Close button, photo closes
• Now I have TWO photos showing in my web page, both the same photo
• Reloaded web page, back to only one photo
• Clicking one photo and closing ends with duplicate photo again

[anon9582441]

What is the plan forward with the photos app? Is there a list of milestones, features or otherwise that is planned?

Unfortunately the current state of the photos app in NC18 and NC19 is very poor. And from what I gather from the issues on Github, it may not be possible to implement many of the features that (especially home users) expect.

Why not break off the development on this photos app and instead fork or integrate something like Piwigo or Lychee, both blazing fast. You’ve done this with other apps like mail and office.

electerious/Lychee

Piwigo/Piwigo