just like dropbox has, lan sync from one client to another so internet usage minimized.
have a machine only turned on occasionally for specific items that I also sync, and if its been a bit sucks having to sync everything from server when client literally 4 feet away is already synced.
sounds interesting, if the nextcloud server is on the same lan it would also be faster than via internet
There is no guarantee that the other client has the same files so I don’t see how this should work. Can’t you simply create a proxy server which caches in between?
well if that client had been turned off for some time damned good chance the files are not the same. in fact you could pretty much bet thats the case.
and since the client(s) that are always on and already synced from the server would be the only files that matter not sure why anyone would think thats an issue.
dropbox lan sync works well.
either devs here are capable of doing it or they are not.
but that could also happen if the internet is disabled for a long time. The idea is, switch to the LAN, if you are in the same LAN the nextcloud server is. If you have Gigabit LAN it would be so much faster.
Personally, I just add my domain name to etc hosts on all of the machines on my LAN, pointing to the servers LAN IP. It’s not really a novice user friendly process, but it’s really simple and works perfectly for me. Syncing is lightning fast.
And how do you do this on windows and android?
imho it should be something end users can configure on their nextcloud client.
You do it with proper DNS.
All of my installs on resolve an internal IP address when on the LAN. So the client never tries for the public ip,
2 different topics are mixed here.
The part with the lan access should be covered via nat loopback of your router.
When you set e.g. a dyndns and access this url from intern, your router should recognize and do a direct connect without going extern.
The requester is asking about 2 clients syncing directly - without acessing the server for the filetransfer.
This means that a client would connect to the Server;
Server confirmes that the file is known and reports its parameters like changedate;
Client searches internally for other client if they have this version;
The clients communicate directly;
In short: the clients need to open listener-ports and act as servers also.
I think a little overkill
you are right, his question is about peer 2 peer over lan. This should be discussed in this thread: P2P Seeded File Sync
But the idea switching automatically to LAN sync with the server if the client is on the same local network as the server, is also great in my opinion.
Yes, I agree completely. I was just talking about a quick hack that works well for me, and would for the OP, not how we should expect everyone to do it.
But you cant simply modify the /etc/hosts from any application.
Even if you manage to solve the security/authorizations, there would be a lot of validations required not to mess anything up, because there is hardly any file with more immediate impact
you don’t need to modify the /etc/hosts. The end user has to select the wifi which is the one the server is also connected to. Then the client checks via ping whether the server is really in that network if yes all is good.
I hadn’t seen the p2p thread which may well be the same thing.
and yes my post was predicated on server NOT being on same lan, if it were would not be an issue just due to lan speeds.
All I know is that I open is once with sudo nano /etc/hosts add my servers LAN IP and domain name and after I save that it works like a dream for me. YMMV
I would also like this feature.
As far as I understand it the way it works on DropBox is:
Client 1 uploads files to DropBox server (external to the LAN).
Client 2 connects to the DropBox server, see a file is there, but sees that it is also on Client 1 and grabs it from Client 1 as it is quicker than downloading from the server.
The file being on the server initially I think is to prevent conflicts.
I find this is most useful when you are adding a new client to the system. Rather than downloading GBs of data from a remote server, it grabs them relatively quickly over the LAN from an existing client.
LAN sync (in the way DropBox does it) is not an issue with a locally hosted OwnCloud server.
But this way you have have to remove/comment-out the line everytime you leave your internal network.
What I’ve been using for years is dnsmasq - it’s a caching dns server; you simply configure it to use your current dns servers upstream and add in a couple of manual entries for your domains. Then in order to have each client that connects via dhcp use your internal dns server, you simply set the dns server ip’s in your gateway/router to point to your dnsmasq instance; better yet if your running something like dd-wrt or pfSense you can install dnsmasq directly to the router.
not sure why everyone went off on a tangent but when server is on same lan this is not an issue,
this is for when server is on WAN like a dedicated/vps off of lan.
Yes, exactly. And, for example, when the Cloud server is out on the real internet (including e.g. hosted service). It would be very handy if multiple client computers “at home” can pick up a new (often big) file from the “at home” client that just created/modified it, rather than downloading it (a separate time for each “home client”) over and over.
I would like to add another (extending) use case:
I have a local Owncloud installation on my NAS, Raspi, Home-PC, that has access to all the terabytes of local disks laying around, maybe not always available. Then I have an Owncloud in the web (root-server, whatoever), always available, with a good connection (upload & download) but limited space, that serves all my phones/tables/PCs etc. with files/contacts/calender/etc. The home-Owncloud is hooked into the web-Owncloud via federation, to have everything accessible. In the Web-OC I can decide which data I want to have always available there (similar to the checkboxed-tree in the Windows-Client).
I don’t want to maintain to sources/client-folder in my sync-folder, one file, one URL, independent where it resides (this should be transparent to me as a user/application program). If the home-OC is not available obviously I cannot connect to the content, if I did not check the box to mirror it on the web-OC (which is included in a completely different User Story as well).
But if the home-OC is available, I would not like to load the file (e.g. a movie) from my disk through the home-OC to the web-OC (with limited upload bandwidth) and back again to my PC 3 meters away. The routing shoud find the local LAN shortcut.
(I guess this needs to be solved mainly as a proxy/routing issue. But I am not an expert in this. The Sabre guy who was on the OCC 2015 in Berlin might be knowledgeable enough with this topic to help.)