Nextcloud 13 Brings Improved UI, Video and Text Chat, End-to-end Encryption, Improved performance and more

[janvlug]

Is it already known when Nextcloud 13 will be available through the stable channel?

[ExaconAT]

Since 2 or 3 days, it’s stable?

[Nytrm]

@janvlug
Especially these major updates are pushed out in stages. I don’t know what the criteria are, but for me it feels like it is by chance, so sometimes you get the update over the updater immediately, sometimes you’ll have to wait some days or mostly weeks, sometimes until the next point release.

You’ll see above in this thread, that you can’t affect (or not that I know of), weather you get the update in the stable channel or not.

@Therion7777

And again – my prod get the OTA, but my test instance not ://

Is there any possibility to force the OTA?

But, there is a little workaround: In the days of the major update, the beta channel contains the stable major release. So you can “force” the update, by switching to the beta channel, do the update and then switch back to the stable channel.

But also note, that this behavior of staged updates is intended, because sometimes, even the push of an update is paused because a bigger bug has been found in the new version. Then the next update push will start with the next point release and again mostly staged of course. So if you hadn’t the possibility to update, you were able to avoid a bad bug in this case.
See as example when NC12 came out: NC12 Updater stable release

So in general there is no reason to rush an update, but if you really want to because you want to test or try new features, you can do the mentioned trick with temporarily switching to beta channel or update manually the version via occ or even more manually by deploying the downloaded zip on the server.

EDIT: some typo

[LandyVlad]

Again,

I’m new at this sorry for stupid question - can someone please point me to how I upgrade from v 12 to this new one?
I tried to upgrade to 12.0.4 and have errors there too.

Thanks

[tflidd]

If you encounter display problems, you can clear the server cache manually (fix will be in 13.0.1):

Display issues after upgrade to NC 13.0.0

Issue in NC 13.0.0 (it will be fixed in 13.0.1), related github-issue -> https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/8043 Symptoms: White screen on web-interface (except for the navigation elements), other display issues with web-interface (also when individual themings are used). Workaround: Delete the CSS and js cache on your server, run these commands in your nextcloud folder via terminal: rm -r data/appdata_*/css/* data/appdata_*/js/* occ files:scan-app-data reload the page Remark: If the…

Performance improvements for sharing feature can already be use in NC 13:

Speed up sharing in NC 13

In NC13, create an additional index in the sharing table for performance improvements (put your setup in maintenance mode before): sudo -u www-data php occ db:add-missing-indice There will be a mechanism to check this in future versions to notify users about it. It was not in the default update routine because it can take much time and should be executed in a terminal where no timeouts apply. ref: https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/13/admin_manual/maintenance/upgrade.html#upgrading-to-nextclou…

[gradinaruvasile]

I submitted a report.

I excepted the Talk app too from optimizations yet only the Nextcloud app receives the notification.

[neoencrypt]

Using the latest pre-release E2EE linux desktop client with NC 13.0 on Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS , I am getting the error “Could not read system exclude file” and files are not getting synced. Can somebody help me with a way to resolve this issue

[johnfelipe]

Put chmod correctly to all folder

[jknockaert]

@system

You can learn more about Nextcloud Talk on our website.

Checking out that page I learn about its pricing:

Starting at EUR 5000/USD 6000 per year

That’s quite a bit of money I would say.

[georgep]

This is an enterprise product and for a large enterprise that amount is
nothing!

[ExaconAT]

If it’s nothing for you, pls send money @ my PP ACC, BR

[Schmu]

These prices are for (bigger) companies, which want to have professional support and not rely on a community of private people who answer when they have time (or are in a good mood ).
To have an employed person take care of your software and probable the whole setup, this person needs to be paid adequate (as well as the equipment he needs).

Compared to the license and the support fees we have to pay for our software, Nextcloud is not too expensive.

However for private persons it shouldn’t be necessary to buy professional support. The community is pretty good already

[alfred]

Only problem is, as always, the support for smaller companies. For <10-20 employees, it is still a lot of money.

[Schmu]

Well, yes. I agree with that.

I have to differentiate however.

When it comes to the Talk high speed backend server with the mentioned cost 5.000€ per year, it is probably something a small company doesn’t need. I think it is possible to setup one’s own turn server and so on, if there are only 10 to 20 employees.

And the support actually starts at 1.900€ per year for the basic support and up to 50 users.
That sounds pretty fair to me and can be achievable by smaller companies as well - especially if you really need the support by professionals.

[jmartin]

I upgraded from 12.05 to 13.0 with no problems using the Web upgrade it was smooth. I am on the NextCloud Box but running NextCloud with a LAMP install instead of Snap. I have several PHP MySQL apps running as well as some custom developed Web PHP, MySQL apps.

Great Job with version 13.0

[Escubaer]

Where do I find the source code for the Enterprise offering?