Forum performance: still a problem?

smokingwheels · February 23, 2023, 12:02pm

Yes the problem I have here with this forum.

These are the DNS requests asked when I use wget to the URL you supplied. From my local Pihole.


2023-02-23 18:52:18 	A	www.nextcloud.com	192.168.1.20	OK (answered by 8.8.8.8#53)	IP (349.1ms)

|2023-02-23 19:35:04 |AAAA|help.nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|OK (answered by 8.8.8.8#53)|IP (66.2ms)||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|2023-02-23 19:35:04 |A|help.nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|OK (cache)|IP (0.2ms)||
|2023-02-23 19:35:04 |A|help.nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|OK (cache)|IP (0.2ms)||
|2023-02-23 19:31:35 |A|**stats.nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|Blocked (gravity)|IP** (0.4ms)||
|2023-02-23 19:31:25 |A|nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|OK (answered by 8.8.8.8#53)|IP (66.7ms)||
|2023-02-23 19:31:25 |A|help.nextcloud.com|192.168.1.20|OK (cache)|IP (0.3ms)||

stats subdomain being blocked, not sure of the effects of this.

The output of wget, there is a 2 second delay before any data is given. I am not sure about this operation in a web server environment.


root@Nextcloud-ASUS:~# wget help.nextcloud.com
URL transformed to HTTPS due to an HSTS policy
--2023-02-23 19:33:19--  https://help.nextcloud.com/
Resolving help.nextcloud.com (help.nextcloud.com)... 95.217.53.158, 2a01:4f9:2b:29dc::146
Connecting to help.nextcloud.com (help.nextcloud.com)|95.217.53.158|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: ‘index.html.1’

index.html.1                 [  <=>                              ]  22.04K  68.5KB/s    in 0.3s

smokingwheels · February 23, 2023, 4:08pm

There is a problem with the html code on some posts and in other discourse forums.

Output of the current crawler at a depth of 7 activity. contact yacy for more info…

meonkeys · February 23, 2023, 5:55pm

Will you try this?

curl --compressed -o /dev/null https://help.nextcloud.com/assets/discourse-fa0bebf654588c3e45c7d642211b1a3a7f39649c44fec50bcbf3317afdb6b976.js

That’s one example of a forum Javascript file that takes some people a second or two to download. For me it takes ~45 seconds.

  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  508k  100  508k    0     0  11257      0  0:00:46  0:00:46 --:--:-- 14792

Whatever you are willing to share about your physical location and ISP would be helpful, just maybe use approximate values for privacy.

Is the /e/ OS forum fast for you? https://community.e.foundation/

You can try a similar download test with theirs:

curl --compressed -o /dev/null https://community.e.foundation/assets/application-f58e2fca790bb4e9478185ad73807d2e.js

Here’s my result:

  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  448k  100  448k    0     0   314k      0  0:00:01  0:00:01 --:--:--  314k

devnull · February 24, 2023, 6:56am

I think it is a problem with the webserver or at Hetzner. The second file is so fast that i do not get a time. First file 10 seconds, screenshot above from me was 25 seconds. I think the factor is 10+ between the second to the first file.

curl --compressed -o /dev/null https://help.nextcloud.com/assets/discourse-fa0bebf654588c3e45c7d642211b1a3a7f39649c44fec50bcbf3317afdb6b976.js
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  508k  100  508k    0     0  48980      0  0:00:10  0:00:10 --:--:-- 55733

curl --compressed -o /dev/null https://community.e.foundation/assets/application-f58e2fca790bb4e9478185ad73807d2e.js
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  448k  100  448k    0     0   728k      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  727k

Traceroute https://help.nextcloud.com

 6  decix-gw.hetzner.com (80.81.192.164)  37.915 ms  15.303 ms  20.653 ms
 7  core8.fra.hetzner.com (213.239.252.9)  21.927 ms  22.074 ms  23.819 ms
 8  core31.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.165)  50.814 ms core32.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.154)  46.084 ms core31.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.165)  51.064 ms
 9  ex9k2.dc2.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.142)  43.435 ms  47.972 ms  49.941 ms
10  s5.nextcloud.com (95.216.247.163)  45.575 ms  46.509 ms  46.676 ms
11  help.nextcloud.com (95.217.53.158)  48.820 ms  37.774 ms  39.122 ms

Traceroute https://community.e.foundation

 6  decix-gw.hetzner.com (80.81.192.164)  38.210 ms  15.451 ms  16.291 ms
 7  core24.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.81)  25.743 ms  26.341 ms  26.399 ms
 8  spine3.cloud2.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.239.134)  27.886 ms spine4.cloud2.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.239.138)  26.571 ms spine1.cloud2.fsn1.hetzner.com (213.239.239.126)  27.904 ms
 9  et-2.16.rs3k8.rz4.hetzner.de (213.239.239.90)  39.467 ms et-1.16.rs3k9.rz4.hetzner.de (213.239.239.82)  44.309 ms 213-239-239-78.clients.your-server.de (213.239.239.78)  44.462 ms
10  * * *
11  22718.your-cloud.host (162.55.117.137)  23.886 ms  24.759 ms  24.949 ms
12  * * *
13  * * *

smokingwheels · February 24, 2023, 7:46am

That could be a DNS issue? or not enough ports available? or concurrent DNS lookups limit error reached at the forums end. we can’t load test it for that just but just a single once off test should be ok…

There is 2 public hosts down for the A record.

4 Down

This in mine…did a few tries then the A record resolved it up correctly.
I have used this site for my free domain services for Many years. I speeds up DNS propagation.





Its a post from Jan 19 2019 and there is no email notification.
I only start receiving nextcloud system emails Aug 2019.
Not sure if I cleaned it out 5 years ago.

There  was a post reply yesterday. I got a email but not in the webpage portal.

last visit
tflidd)Community leader

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smokingwheels · February 24, 2023, 8:26am

trace to help. nextcloud .com
hetzner is ok.
My ip is in the us I forgot exact location…

 6  143.244.224.213 (143.244.224.213)  2.300 ms 143.244.224.209 (143.244.224.209)  0.602 ms 143.244.224.213 (143.244.224.213)  0.552 ms
 7  * * *
 8  mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.116.196)  164.820 ms mei-b4-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.143.22)  171.210 ms mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.116.196)  164.783 ms

I have issues with the domain nextcloud . com in yacy.
indexed crawler errors
11821 / 0/ 10964 URLs
Trace route to nextcloud . com (don’t want to upset robot…)
The result is over 2 .5 seconds from the US.
Not sure if it is normal or not.

7  snge-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (80.239.132.150)  1.383 ms snge-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (80.239.132.212)  1.337 ms *
 8  mei-b4-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.143.22)  209.287 ms mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.116.196)  164.606 ms mei-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.112.218)  160.827 ms
 9  ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.116.20)  169.303 ms ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.124.58)  153.380 ms  153.371 ms
10  s-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.138.104)  217.989 ms s-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.143.28)  201.313 ms s-bb2-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.138.104)  196.238 ms
11  hls-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.122.35)  196.348 ms hls-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.122.33)  218.666 ms hls-b4-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.123.203)  211.031 ms
12  hetzner-svc076536-ic365572.ip.twelve99-cust.net (62.115.52.255)  206.348 ms hetzner-svc067711-ic351605.ip.twelve99-cust.net (62.115.183.185)  208.283 ms hetzner-svc076536-ic365572.ip.twelve99-cust.net (62.115.52.255)  205.191 ms
13  core32.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.203.209)  204.868 ms  200.037 ms core31.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.203.205)  188.807 ms
14  ex9k2.dc2.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.142)  218.222 ms ex9k2.dc2.hel.hetzner.com (213.239.224.146)  212.353 ms ex9k2.dc2.hel1.hetzner.com (213.239.224.142)  208.813 ms
15  s5.nextcloud.com (95.216.247.163)  208.019 ms  214.789 ms  194.436 ms
16  nextcloud.com (95.217.53.155)  211.666 ms  205.251 ms  203.011 ms

smokingwheels · February 24, 2023, 8:35am

Hop 12

Its possibly a load balancer or firewall or NAT.
Extra routes to the destination is what I have seen so far.

A different problem the preview vertical sync is growing more out of place the longer it gets…each time I add length.

just · April 5, 2023, 5:44pm

Here is an update on the forum, which has received a lot of backend work. Please check if you still are having connectivity issues. Thanks.