Totally now giving up ever using NEXTCLOUD

I must admit that I can somewhat relate to what cptnkirk is saying here and I do consider my self as at least a bit specialist in IT altougth saying myself.
However I do spent (awful) lot of time trying to get Nextcloud AIO installed and failed multiple times until I got it trough. But still today (and this now roughly a week ago when I got the installation through) I haven’t finalised/set it up completely. I’d still like to study a bit more to understand all the setting, parameters etc so I can then get it all right (for my purpose) maybe on the first try.
Anyhow I do think Nextcloud is missing an official instructions how to set it up from zero. I.e. it should cover all the steps that you need to do before even loading a nextcloud package or docker etc is it to do with your router/domain/certificate/firewall/hostaname or what ever. The problem is that to get it done, you basically need to combine multiple sources together and then based on these half dozen different sources you probably can get through all the hurdles that are on your way.
I did also skip some installation methods just because I understood that they were not officially supported etc. If I have spend a week to set it all up, I would appreciate that its supported and will get some updated in the future so that it wouldn’t be just wasted time.
Maybe it’s not important but I thought it would be nice to have.

Would you like to share the steps.

When I try and connect I get the “access through untrusted domain, please see the documentation”

How do I for example add lets encrypt SSL certs to the server?
Is there a guide?

router:
You mean the your home internet router? Do you know how many models there are, and what difference you already have at ISP level (static/dynamic ipv4, carrier-grade Nat, with or without ipv6)
domain:
just a dynamic dns domain? Then you need to set up a tool to update the DNS entry. If it is a normal dns hoster, do they allow fast ip updates, do you need an extra service?
certificate: To simplify, we could say just letsencrypt.
firewall: do you need one? If you just have the HTTP/s ports open… Or you want to control outgoing connections initiated by the server?

In reality, the NextcloudPi comes very close to this: It has a lot of the features in the system included that are interesting for home-hosting (backup, dynamic dns, …):
https://docs.nextcloudpi.com/

That is a very good starting points, you can just install it at home, learn and gain experience, and if the performance is not enough any more, you can migrate to something more powerful.

Yes I mean the home router (that I had two on the way). But it doest have to be specific to certain model of course. More just a reminder of what you, in general, have to do on the routers too. Like in my case, first forward the ports from the 1. router to the next router. And then 2. forward the ports from the 2nd router to the host running the nextcloud. Or actually the npm in my case.
I understand that there are probably indefinite amount of combination and it’s impossible to cover them all, but something that would in general cover most if not all of the steps would be nice.
I did found eventually everything I needed, but it took time to google days & days around finding the right answers/examples where the setup was a little bit like yours.
It’s frustrating because you know it doesn’t work, but your’re not certain why and you have to try almost everything.
In my case (I think now), the problem was to get the past the domain validation because most likely my domain were not correctly set/pointed to the right place. And it was confusing, because I tried to follow one example that looked simple enough, but still he didn’t have to use “dns challenge” with the NPM, but for some reason I did. And still don’t know exactly why.

Hello all,
I had to walk away from this for a while now because I was getting nowhere with it quickly.
Every step takes ages to fathom out.
You get the impression that because they market it as HOME version - it is definitely for the advanced technical people that probably would install it in their home.

Now that I have had a couple of weeks to think all of this over - I have decided to walk away from NEXTCLOUD and not bother.
Reason is that if things in future go wrong or do not work - if the installation is anything to go by - I would not want to find myself in this predicament and then be VERY FEARFUL of losing my files - which was the first initial idea of this adventure.

I have found this on YouTube - it is EXACTLY what I’m after - follow the video till the end - as I probably will do the DAS version of this.
If the link does not work then search in YouTube for “There’s a better way to store media” from Standard Story Compnay.
And that means I have literally everything I was looking for since Microsoft has let me down in such a BIG way.

Good luck to all of you and also hope that NEXTCLOUD will eventually help us HOME USERS - for now, its not for me.

Kindest regards to all of you.

CptnKirk over and out. Beam me up Scotty :slight_smile:

I can feel your pain and heavens knows, many of us have complained about the documentation and installation instructions. It’s probably all there but boy is it hard to find and follow sometimes.

But… in Nextcloud’s defence, this isn’t an issue that you only find with this product. It’s much a problem of the fragmentation of the Linux market and the sheer number of distros and flavours of the various apps like MariaDB, nginx etc.

Anything to do with Linux isn’t for the fainthearted and the learning curve is steep. If you come from the Windows world, you’re often in for a shock. Things are often hard in the Windows world and that’s with two main distros: desktop and server Windows.

Documentation and tutorials are often the weak point of any software package. I must be mad, but I quite like Mikrotik networking equipment. The power of their router operating system has to be seen to be believed. But I often battle against lack of coherent documentation there too.

So the solution - maybe stick with Google Drive, OneDrive, Dropbox or many of the other cloud storage systems out there. BUT never totally trust them and make sure you take a backup yourself.

For sure… in the home market, it’s very much for the advanced hobbyist. That said, I’m sure the container solutions should be relatively easy. Haven’t tried myself - I like the battle of implementing it manually :wink:

What I can say though is that I often do a little dance when I finally work out the solution!

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As someone who has next to no experience i have managed to install nextcloud aio. Its running almost perfectly and i have a back up nightly so when needed i can just roll it back.

Im on unraid and if im not mistaken that is basically Ubuntu linux?

Install NC aio = Nextcloud AIO – Личное облако "All in One" на unRAID 6.10.1

There is a github with so much info!!!
https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one

Also helpfull and in the github.
Reset the instance = GitHub - nextcloud/all-in-one: The official Nextcloud installation method. Provides easy deployment and maintenance with most features included in this one Nextcloud instance.

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