Latest version working with 32 bit PHP?

Hello!

Which one is the latest version of NC, that doesn’t complain about a 32 bit installation of PHP, and where can I download it?

I want to setup a small cloud on an older 32 bit Linux machine. The latest NC version complains about the 32 bit PHP installation. Since this machine will never be reachable from the outside world, older versions and security are not the most important issues here. Running smoothly is much more important.

Thanks in advance!

NC does not use Python in the core as far as I know. There might be ExApps that do but the core is PHP, still. Are you sure, that NC itself complaints?

Ups! You’re right: I confused Python and PHP. How embarrassing…

According to the system requirements, 32-bit is still supported, even with the latest version:
https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/system_requirements.html#cpu-architecture-and-os

However, it also says: “A 64-bit CPU, OS and PHP is required for Nextcloud to run well”, so YMMV. :wink:

Of course, you’ll also need to find a Linux distribution that still supports 32-bit. Here it depends on whether you’re talking about i386 (x86) or ARM32. On x86, Debian 12 Bookworm is probably your best bet, but keep in mind that Debian 13 Trixie has dropped native 32-bit i386 support, so it won’t run on 32-bit x86 CPUs anymore. ARM32, however, is still supported.

Or in other words, 32-bit is on its way out, and sooner or later you’ll need to buy new hardware anyway. Honestly, that shouldn’t be an issue these days, since you can get a used office PC for under 100 bucks, and virtually any office PC from the last 15 years already comes with a 64-bit CPU. :wink:

It’s not just about money, it’s also about sufficiency. Here I have some older Raspberry clones in my cupboard, that are still very much useful and very appropriate for a small personal cloud. And they don’t cause a high bill for energy!

I am not planing to store giga bytes of movies and other stuff in this cloud, just my personal data. So there is no real need for a big new shiny pc that needs its own energy plant to be driven!

agree more or less :thinking:

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I’m not going to put my head on a block for this suggestion! :diving_mask:

Yeah, as I said, if they are ARM-based, operating system support should still be fine for the forseable future. How well individual applications run on them is another question, but Nextcloud still supports 32-bit, at least. It’s probably not as well tested though, and bugs specific to 32-bit likely have lower priority.

Modern x86 systems do not either. In idle state, which home servers are in most of the time, they draw well under 10 watts. The Intel N-series processors with only efficiency cores go as low as 6 watts in idle and around 15 watts under load. These days, peripherals in an average home server (NVMe drives, HDDs, etc.) usually consume more power than the CPU.

It doesn’t have to be big: there are countless mini PCs in this low power segment, and even if you opt for a faster CPU such as an i5, or even i7 in a mini PC, these don’t consume significantly more power when idle. Here’s just one example of what feels like hundreds of comparable offers out there: https://store.minisforum.com/collections/intel%C2%AE-core%C2%AE-series?filter.p.tag=Intel%C2%AE+Processor+N150