HubZilla, an interesting selfhosted social network companion to your Nextcloud

[ikandi]

Perhaps another platform we could look at in terms of moving forward is the new Solid platform proposed by Tim Berners-Lee, the godfather of the internet.

Well actually, Solid isn’t that new, it’s been around for a few years but now it looks like they cranking up their activity and it’s been in the press the last few days and makes for an interesting platform to have a look at, particularly around the decentralisation of the internet.

[Cambridgeport90]

Sounds pretty interesting; I need to set up a Hubzilla server, though know really why I would in light of the fact I already have so much of a social media presence already.

[Bijang]

I havn;t installed Hubzilla or similar federated apps in the ring yet, but looking at this discussion I couldn’t understand, what’s the actual level of integration or interoperability between NC and any of the “Fediverse” (Hubzilla mastodon Peertube etc)?
I’ve also read about Solid recently, can someone explain what it is compared to NC and the Fediverse apps? Will it also integrate and does it have any advantages? The site is too vague for me and docs too technical…

[jospoortvliet]

@ikandi

Perhaps another platform we could look at in terms of moving forward is the new Solid platform proposed by Tim Berners-Lee, the godfather of the internet.

Frank knows him quite well, we’ve been talking to them about some collaboration. Let’s see what happens… The problem with this and other projects (like hubzilla) is that they tend to have promise - but only a small ecosystem right now. Often, Nextcloud’s existing ecosystem is 10 to 100x larger already and thus if we put in a developer month in integration it is of far less benefit to our average user than if we’d put that same month into simply improving Nextcloud. Of course, we always welcome help from others who want to work on it!

[anon75456558]

It is true that Nextcloud has a very large ecosystem, but keep in mind that Hubzilla supports advanced features that would greatly benefit your project. The Zot protocol is very mature and has been in development for years… Zot allows a user to easily copy, clone or migrate their user account from one trusted server to another. I’ve personally been using zot for over a year and it works beautifully! Since it is coded for PHP integration is a definite possibility. Just my .02 and thanks for reading.

edit: I see @andrew from Hubzilla project has shown interest in this kind of integration back in 2017.

Using Hubzilla to advance the development of Nextcloud federation

For those who have not heard of Hubzilla, it is an advanced platform for content publishing and social networking using a decentralized identity and permissions system. Hubzilla and Nextcloud are converging from their initially different starting points, and it would be beneficial for the two projects to begin seeing what they can learn from the other. Specifically, Nextcloud started with a focus on a robust web interface for storing personal data as well as apps to sync this data between devi…

[born2webdesign]

@ikandi

the godfather of the internet

Of the web!
Actually, Solid sounds like we could have that today, on the Fediverse—just a payment system might be useful?

[ikandi]

I am considering Sandstorm.io as my personal server solution. These guys look like they have their house in order.

[Mecallie]

I am guessing the Hubzilla/Nextcloud combo washed out?

[Krischan]

It’s still possible to link accounts via the user_sql NC plugin or (I think) the OIDC provider build into either of them. But it is largely a duplication as both provide php based calendar and file sharing.

[anon75456558]

Hubzilla and nextcloud work well together. Both use webdav for storage.

Both offer caldav and cardav, but no integration work has been done afaik.