Help understanding the Android Photos app and Upload settings

Hi,
I want to switch from Google Photos to NextCloud to manage my camera photos.

I searched and tried a lot yesterday. This is what I found and my questions:

  • Google makes it impossible to set any other app as “cloud media manager”. So not all apps will be able to reach the NextCloud Photo folder.
  • I disabled Google Photos and you are warned it can stop functionality. I will see if it does and let you know.
  • I don’t find where to set the sync time in the NextCloud app
  • The Photos (for NextCloud) app just connects to your NextCloud-folder and shows the same photo’s as in your NextCloud app (with the option to edit and in a better looking view).
  • To view photos, you need a gallery app, otherwise you have to wait until the picture you taken is uploaded, after which you can see it in Photos.
  • You select folders to upload in the NextCloud app, not in Photos.
  • Confusing: there are 2 Camera folders on my FairPhone, one in DCIM and one in Videos. Files of both, end up in the same Camera Folder in NextCloud (which is OK, but good to know).

Questions:

  • Will photos locally be deleted to save space, but still be browsable by their thumbnails and downloaded when clicked?
  • I have the impression if I delete a photo on my phone, it’s not deleted in the NextCloud folder? Is that correct, Can I change that behaviour?
  • You can also set folders to sync in the NextCloud app. That would sync both ways instead of only from phone to server?

To auto-upload files on Android, go to Settings > Auto Upload in the Nextcloud app, set up a custom folder, and make sure the app has All Files Access permission. This enables uploads but isn’t full two-way sync

Yes, I knew that.

Can I set to delete photos from nextcloud, if I delete them from my phone?

Will pictures be deleted on my phone after some time, or after a certain amount of storage, to save space? While keeping them in NextCloud of course. What propriety photo apps do.

Meanwhile I can confirm something I read elsewhere: it’s better to use the f-droid NextCloud app, upload time is much faster (almost immediately).

I’ll answer some questions like your initial points 1.1-7 and your questions 2.1-3

1.1-2: I don’t really know as I have a custom rom without a Google account anymore. But deactivating regularly just means this app and services bounding to it. So an alternative app will bring its own dependecies and can run as standalone.

1.3: You don’t have a sync frequence or a special time day time to sync, it is “now”. Only for calendar and contacs by davx you can set a sync period. Nevertheless you can set autosync on an update/upload.

1.4-5: There are the “phone” app like galleries, which will only search and show files (images) on the internal or sdcard storage. Even with a webdav connection you can’t find the images stored on nextcloud.

The nextcloud app aka nextcloud file storage app on the phone will show media stored in folders of the nextcloud.

Personally I would be happier to have a gallery with nextcloud link to show all images whereever they are. (maybe in the future).

On Desktops with a nextcloud storage as regular folder is no problem to access and store (rwx) files there.

1.6: Yes, this is right as the nextcloud app has access to the phone storage but a phone app has no knowledge about the nextcloud.

1.7: You have to look exactly. There is an upload for photos and one for movies. Even if both are in the same folder photos and movies are treatead as separate (and all other file formats will be not synced, even in these folders).

So, if you have in addition a folder for telegram, signal, whatsapp, you have to sync double, photos and movies. (Better would be just to upload a folder)

2.1: It depends on your settings. You have the option to keep files, just move files and move files + delete them.

2.2: As regular, the link between a folder on the phone and the virtual nextcloud folder is symbolic. Depending on your decision on 2.1 files on the cloud storage are independent from those of a local storage. You can compare it with a portable USB stick, copy the file, unplug and then you rename the original file keeps the file untouched on the USB stick.

2.3: Even here you can set the sync option. 2way means editing files will affects to “copy storage” file. on oneway is like for a media player, just listen to the music and don’t edit. So for 1way are 2 directions. 1 means just copy from the phone, no matter what happened on the cloud. 2 means copy from the cloud storage no matter what you have edited on the phone.

In addition, there is a problem with presenting images and movies. The phone gallery will show them in the direction of “created” meaning stored. So, your photo from year 2015 copied from your computer or cloud will be shown “today”.

In the nextcloud there is the chance to sort images by folder (date times), name and the original timestamp, so your 2015 photo will remain in 2015.

I always hate, sorting images from other people or as backup from an old phone into my DCIM/Camera folder and get these all shown as created as they are stored on the internal storage.

I need also some help please :sweat_smile:

I am using NextCloud since years, also to automatically upload my photos. Lately, I got some infinite loops, and so I reinstalled the app (on android) again.

However, it is still uploading all the photos from my main photo folder, even if I have unclicked the “Upload also existing files”… it is very annoying, as this folder is huge, it fills up my free 8 GB very soon, and of course it consumes a lot of data (in the background, I did not recon this…).

Any idea? Cheers!