Never said that RAID replaces a backup. I suggested to backup the locally synced files. Cause that can be managed with an easy to use desktop application.
I do think that Hetzner will have some form of backup, cause they donât want to lose all customer data if something bad happens (bad for reputationâŚ). But their backup would be restored without control of the user. e.g. to the state of 12h ago or so (so no proper backup from user side of course).
I totally get your point. These are my concerns as well, but I thought that somehow a transparent âzero knowledgeâ encryption in which only the user holds the encryption key was possible - I now assume it is not and there is always the aspect of trust. But given that you always have to trust the provider anyway, what is the point of server-side encryption? And are there really no Nextcloud providers which offer a setup in which only the user knows the encryption key (it should be technically possible)?
Also, hosting your own server is an non-practical solution for many. For obvious reasons, such as technical knowledge, costs but also security and the environment if I am not mistaken. If you are not an expert, it is generally safer to trust a good company and not mess with your own server, right?
So I was curious to know if you had anything in the Admin Overview section because I feared some providers may just plop up the software as-is without doing any troubleshooting to make sure it would run smoothly.
Why do not you use end-to-end encryption of Nextcloud?
I think the most Fully Managed Nextcloud Hoster support this feature!
It should normally show a message when the cronjob ran for the last time. They could have removed this part from the code as well, so you donât know if they really fixed it.
I would not recommend to use E2E app.
As the developers also say: Itâs in Alpha status and you shouldnât use it productive! - I made some tests and can agree this totally.
Iâm also searching for a hosted NC solution where you can be sure for 100% that only you have the decryption key for your hosted data, @maniacmindhunter
Unfortunately, only E2E encryption is secure in this point. Server-side encryption is just a large source of problems without providing real protection (it was designed for external storage). If you donât want to use Nextcloudâs E2E yet, there are also VeraCrypt containers, Cryptomator, âŚ
A bit OT, but is it actually possible to enable it just for external storages?
Should be, I think they even made it optional on which external storages you want to enable it.
You get what you pay for âŚ
Data loss âŚ
FYI: I´m not the Twitter User Fusl, I only found it on twitter.
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I think the cheapest option by far would be:
I am currently setting up such a thing myself. I googled a lot and read different Tutorials that were all a bit outdated. I found that this blogpost describes exactly how to do it. I am not very familiar with Linux, but literally all commands are in this blog post and you just have to copy paste them. Its very very detailed. Hope it helps you.
in the meanwhile Iâd be more careful about where to host my data.
Hetzner is too wellknown to be the cheapest provider. So be sure there are cheaper ones. But are they better?
Or: is hetzner any good at all?
As I said: Iâd be careful and wouldnât suggest any provider unless Iâd know about the needs and goals of the person looking for a provider.
My hoster:
Greeting
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I only use their VPSs from time to time, so I donât have any long-term experience with them, nor any experience with Hetzner Storage Share (their managed Nextcloud service). But in general Hetzner is a reputable company and I think itâs perfectly fine to use their services.
@all:
Regardless of which provider you use, always remember that the cloud is just someone elseâs computer and things can go wrong, even with large cloud providers.
Fortunately, thereâs a well-established concept that will protect you from loosing your important data, known as the 3-2-1 backup rule:
âHave three copies of your data, on two different media, one of which is stored away from your primary locationâ.
Now, you may not need to take the âtwo different mediaâ part quite so literally, especially if you are a home user, but you should probably do the âthree copiesâ part and you definitely should to do the âdifferent locationâ part.
So if youâre using a cloud provider, the other location could be another cloud provider, or you could, and I strongly recommend you do so, keep a local backup of your data. Obviously, the local synchronisation folder of the Nextcloud desktop client doesnât count, because another rule says that synchronisation is not a backup.
I have been hosting small things with Hetzner since more than 15 years. I was there before there was âcloudâ and when things still ran on KVM hosted âvserversâ.
Hetzner is not only the cheapest but also the most professional german hoster I know. They donât sell âcloudâ nonsense like appliances that are overpriced, donât have any vendor lock-in, support is EXCELLENT, you always get somebody who really knows their stuff, you get a replacement for broken SSDs/HDDs in less than an hour, they are the only german hoster that has a proper rescue system (a debian based live linux you can book with two clicks that has all the tools you need).
If the person needs a hosting provider that is not overpriced and has the best quality service on the german market its safe to recommend Hetzner.
I am a Hetzner customer for some 20 years, had racks with own servers there, were at their datacenters several times. They were always reliable.
I use their âcloudâ options (small 3eur/month virtual servers, one per service) for 5+ years now, and they worked with zero problems. I could also use the snapshots often to roll back after upgrading problems, always worked perfectly.
They even keep the low price I paid 5 years ago, donât increase existing servers prices when the prices for new ones increase.
I have no idea if they are âthe cheapestâ. I can only say that I trust them, and I trust them for sure more than any US providers (AWS, Google, Microsoft and many others).
