I thought perhaps we can create a wiki-style thread where people can find and manage a list of hosters (since the the Nextcloud Providers github repo which used to contain this information has now been archived).
Iâm up for it, though but as one of the many independent mini hosters who built a few offerings on top of the community edition myself, I donât want to be the one to push this topic
So Iâm a bit flip-flopping on this. Perhaps people go in here for the knowledge, and thatâs why I love to be here and give back whatever I know to the community. But then if such a thread exists, happy to take part in that too.
Itâs a shame that the Hosting Provider, who ultimately contributed to Nextcloudâs popularity, doesnât seem to receive any recognition. The Hosting Provider list keeps moving to where no one wants to see it. From the website to Github and now in the forum. Thanks!
I also find it bad how the community, but also Nextcloud GmbH, deals with the list of paid but also free Nextcloud providers.
Itâs no wonder that the Nextcloud software is not popular with normal users. Anyone who does not operate their Nextcloud themselves or has it operated by a provider (e.g. universities or schools) will never understand how software like Nextcloud works or that a provider is necessary for this.
In addition, on the Nextcloud homepage Try Nextcloud now could give the impression that you can get an account there. But there is only a 60-minute account for which you now also have to register. What does Nextcloud GmbH do with the data? But at least you can reuse the link you receive as often as you like for new 60-minute test accounts. But I think many potential Nextcloud users have already been put off at this point.
There is also Sign up , where you currently have a choice of two providers. It could give the impression that these two Nextcloud accounts represent the entire Nextcloud cloud for end users. Here too, the Nextcloud software has probably lost many potential users. There used to be more providers here. This probably only had negative effects for both Nextcloud GmbH and the providers.
Itâs no wonder that Nextcloud doesnât appeal to the mainstream. But apparently nobody is interested in advancing Nextcloud. What a pity.
For what it is worth, we recently tried Cloudamo, and they couldnât get either OpenOffice integration or the video chat function in Talk working for us. On the OpenOffice, Support said it was a bug between OpenOffice and Nextcloud and we should wait for an upgrade to fix it. For the or the video chat function on Talk they said we would have to buy an additional server setup to run a TURN server, which we would have to set up and support.
To their credit, they have a 60-day guarantee, and were prompt with a refund.
Being one of the small hoster listed in initial post, I find it very strange you could not get a working NC with an Office Suite (we offer Collabora CODE by defauilt in all our instances and also paid version of Collabora for users ready to pay the extra).
For Voice itâs quite different as you need to setup a separate dedicated server and so far with our customers we donât have demand for that so we donât offer that service as most of the small hosters I think
Thatâs exactly why I thought it odd that we would be told to wait for the next version to have working document collaboration.
On the TURN Server, I knew that was a needed component for video chat, but Support not only said it wasnât included, but that we would have to be self-supporting. It didnât make sense for us to be self-supporting on a key component.
It may only be a case of left hand not knowing what was going on with right hand, and it may be a temporary issue, so Iâm not slamming them. Just adding my experience to the information.
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This would be extremely helpful - note I canât find any Wiki link @marcelklehr. The Nextcloud Partner network page seems good also but a lot of these are missing from the partner network. Knowing whether they offer managed solution and the company location is extremely useful also.
Hosting providers are one of the greatest weaknesses of Nextcloud. There is no method, no rubric for knowing which providers are worth anything and which are worthless. Anyone, and I mean anyone, can run a Nextcloud and charge money for access.
How do you know I donât personally run 9/10 providers on this list out of VPS services I barely understand? How can you trust a single provider spamming themselves on the forum? You cannot.
Hetzner is a provably legitimate company without Nextcloud, but what can be said about everyone else on this list? âWe host on EU serversâ means nothing. That is why these lists donât work without real data to back them up, which is tough to figure out and time consuming.
For anyone considering, never trust a random person on the forum. Even me. And never trust a random website selling you Nextcloud until a real, verifiable rubric exists that these supposed hosts must adhere to.
@misc
thanks for your insights. though they are basic common knowledge. itâs always up to anyone to selftest any offer on the internet. ANY (!) offer.
So even if there was (and still is, if youâd ask the forum and the internet) a real, existing, selfwritten opinion by a real person about a certain hoster/offer you canât be sure if they are not just ranting or were bought or bribed or whatelse to make this comment.
the research about EVERY offer is only up to you as a client.
Again: thatâs basic common knowledge.
So I consider it ok to just name several companies who offer services. PLUS itâs an editable list for everyone so if youâre not content with some special provider you you leave a comment or even strike out that one hosterâŚ
Itâs not our misson to have a file about any hoster to be serious, trustful, problematic, etc. nor can we guarantee anything about them. Itâs their business. and itâs only YOUR decision.
plus: imagine that one guy has problems with a certain hoster and is fed up with the for which reason ever. so they drop a referring message here about them. but at the same time 100s of other ppl donât have any problems with the very same hoster but they keep quiet. So what does that mean?
it all comes back to the point: YOU alone are responsible for YOUR decisions/choices. basic common knowlegde.
Well, you could always host it yourself. Then youâll know exactly where your data is stored. Plus, youâll know who to blame when something goes wrong and you lose your data.
If you donât want to do that, itâs just like any other thing you outsource. You have to trust the service provider to some extent.
Many provide test accounts, you can have short-term subscriptions. There are larger providers, where you can probably find customer feedback, IT journalist testing and comparing services, âŚ
It means that the server is within the EU. Mostly in datacenters I suppose, but could be also in a garage of someone
Thanks for making this list! Everyone has their own set of requirements so this is a good starting point.
One requirement that I have seems to be unimportant to all others and I find that very strange: the ability to make a full, local (on my hard disk) backup of all data in the instance that will enable me to âeasilyâ switch vendors in case I decide to do so. That data would have to be a consistent combination of database dump and nextcloud data directory.
So far I have only been able to verify one vendor who offers this: portknox.net . Does anyone know of other vendors who offer this?
Edited to add: vendors within the EU that is of course. Sorry.
But I think many potential Nextcloud users have already been put off at this point.
