if you’ve been to the forums, you know the Nextcloud Community is a vibrant, cheerful bunch and a place for sometimes rigorous debates. But who are we, really? Where are we approaching Nextcloud from and what are we using it for? What are our struggles and what do we love about Nextcloud?
For the question “Do you use Talk, and if so, do you host the HPB?” I would like to answer, that I would use HPB, if I could get it to work. Answering “I use Talk without the HPB” sounds like, I don’t want to use HPB
For question “Which NC apps have you lost interest in” I would love to explain my answer and a big input field would be better for that I believe.
Because I didn’t loose interest in some apps, but I just gave up trying to use them. There are quite a few apps that can’t keep up with the NC server release cycle and as a result these apps can’t be enabled/ used for weeks or months. And it feels like it doesn’t even make sense to try to use them for the short time they are supported by the NC version.
I felt this might be some relevant explanation about why people don’t use some apps or “lost interest”.
First, Marcel asked for feedback on the questions before they were sent out that would’ve been more helpful
True, true. It is of course hard to get nuance in a survey like this… Esp open answer fields are problematic if we get a lot of responses. But this could’ve been elaborated.
The HPB in particular is of course a bit of a PITA to get running, at least compared to the next of Nextcloud - you can either say it shows how hard we work to keep NC easy to run, or it shows how hard it is to run video calling infra
The truth is probably a bit of both…
Right, that’s a similar issue as the one above - maybe you want something but just can’t get it to work.
BTW to deal with this we introduced the option to enable an app even if it doesn’t explicitly state it is compatible - you know, use the big red ‘enable untested app’ or whatever it is named. In most cases, that shouldn’t be an issue - our API evolves, but not THAT fast, we try to keep several years of backwards compatibility so if the app uses public API it should be ok to be updated once every year or even less often.
My post was not meant as a complain about missing questions and rather as feedback and an idea.
Unfortunately I totally missed the forum post which gathered ideas. I don’t have notifications enabled for “General”.
I know I’m late with my feedback and therefor I would never complain. That’s totally on me.
I know and appreciate the hard work of the NC team
Again, I don’t want to complain with my post, I just wanted to add this as feedback, which I couldn’t really add to the form.
I want to write this, so that you know what is going on in the community and what are the struggles of the users. And only because you (the community via the community form) asked Otherwise I would have been silent actually.
Yes, right. I’m aware of that and use it for one or two apps. But I disabled a few apps again, after they caused issues, like throwing too many errors or causing issues in other apps.
“Share renamer” for example does not work at all anymore.
We could totally create a new tag specifically for posts on the forum seeking-feedback or similar. I’d be down for it. If you can think of a better name, let’s do it.
For me, I just wrote whatever I wanted into the fields at any length without penalty. As far as I know, all feedback was received.
This topic is now globally pinned for the next two weeks. Hope that helps.
One place I think we could clarify more information is the intended use case of Nextcloud. It varies, but some of us use it in both professional and personal capacities, both hosted and selfhosted. Perhaps that is even not so rare, but I don’t know.
Also on the development of Nextcloud, it is an interesting and varied topic. For me, the number one issue that needs to be addressed for all users is: make it possible to import and export your personal data from all official, or community, apps whenever possible.
Example: You cannot export Deck data. Sending a gdpr request does not resolve this, so it creates the same problem Frank discussed in a very old school talk on “Crushing data silos” because you are still in a silo in regards to this app individually. Sure, there is nuance here to explore, but this issue is #1 in my opinion for every prospective user there will ever be: Get your data in and out of Nextcloud with equal ease.
Happy to have done the survey and hope it is helpful in getting more input from the community. Much love! Cheers, and thank you.
I totally missed your posting about the planned survey as well.
Seen tweet at Twitter and thought “I am part of the community as well. So, who did that without ringing the bells in the forum?”
Now it is too late.
Thanks for all the feedback! I’m sorry this didn’t reach too many people before being finalized, but for a feedback tag and hopefully, we can do this regularly, every year perhaps? So, your feedback is still valuable
Forgot to mention I lost interest in the Photos app. It works, but I find it is missing the features we had in Gallery. I’m glad we have a photo app, but do not recommend it if you have an alternative available.
An app I love is FlowUpload. It has a wonderful layout and makes it easy to upload folders and files to multiple locations. Even has the ability to resume failed uploads!!! It is the best and deserves desktop and mobile app support. Very strongly recommended!