if youâve been to the forums, you know the Nextcloud Community is a vibrant, cheerful bunch and a place for sometimes rigorous debates. But who are we, really? Where are we approaching Nextcloud from and what are we using it for? What are our struggles and what do we love about Nextcloud?
Weâve gathered a list of questions to glean more insights into our community. If you have been using Nextcloud in some form, we would love for you to take this short survey: https://cloud.nextcloud.com/apps/forms/T3GgFx2JATEYoWFa (Neatly implemented in Nextcloud Forms)
For the question âDo you use Talk, and if so, do you host the HPB?â I would like to answer, that I would use HPB, if I could get it to work. Answering âI use Talk without the HPBâ sounds like, I donât want to use HPB
For question âWhich NC apps have you lost interest inâ I would love to explain my answer and a big input field would be better for that I believe.
Because I didnât loose interest in some apps, but I just gave up trying to use them. There are quite a few apps that canât keep up with the NC server release cycle and as a result these apps canât be enabled/ used for weeks or months. And it feels like it doesnât even make sense to try to use them for the short time they are supported by the NC version.
I felt this might be some relevant explanation about why people donât use some apps or âlost interestâ.
First, Marcel asked for feedback on the questions before they were sent out that wouldâve been more helpful
True, true. It is of course hard to get nuance in a survey like this⌠Esp open answer fields are problematic if we get a lot of responses. But this couldâve been elaborated.
The HPB in particular is of course a bit of a PITA to get running, at least compared to the next of Nextcloud - you can either say it shows how hard we work to keep NC easy to run, or it shows how hard it is to run video calling infra
The truth is probably a bit of bothâŚ
Right, thatâs a similar issue as the one above - maybe you want something but just canât get it to work.
BTW to deal with this we introduced the option to enable an app even if it doesnât explicitly state it is compatible - you know, use the big red âenable untested appâ or whatever it is named. In most cases, that shouldnât be an issue - our API evolves, but not THAT fast, we try to keep several years of backwards compatibility so if the app uses public API it should be ok to be updated once every year or even less often.
That previous post probably didnât get the same visibility because it wasnât in the âNewsâ category, but point taken. Thanks marcel, and thanks jos!
My post was not meant as a complain about missing questions and rather as feedback and an idea.
Unfortunately I totally missed the forum post which gathered ideas. I donât have notifications enabled for âGeneralâ.
I know Iâm late with my feedback and therefor I would never complain. Thatâs totally on me.
I know and appreciate the hard work of the NC team
Again, I donât want to complain with my post, I just wanted to add this as feedback, which I couldnât really add to the form.
I want to write this, so that you know what is going on in the community and what are the struggles of the users. And only because you (the community via the community form) asked Otherwise I would have been silent actually.
Yes, right. Iâm aware of that and use it for one or two apps. But I disabled a few apps again, after they caused issues, like throwing too many errors or causing issues in other apps.
âShare renamerâ for example does not work at all anymore.
Seems a rewrite is in progress in addition to an api which makes it possible to inject entries into the share dropdown: nextcloud/server#28835
It will be available in NC23 and NC22.2.0
We could totally create a new tag specifically for posts on the forum seeking-feedback or similar. Iâd be down for it. If you can think of a better name, letâs do it.
For me, I just wrote whatever I wanted into the fields at any length without penalty. As far as I know, all feedback was received.
This topic is now globally pinned for the next two weeks. Hope that helps.
One place I think we could clarify more information is the intended use case of Nextcloud. It varies, but some of us use it in both professional and personal capacities, both hosted and selfhosted. Perhaps that is even not so rare, but I donât know.
Also on the development of Nextcloud, it is an interesting and varied topic. For me, the number one issue that needs to be addressed for all users is: make it possible to import and export your personal data from all official, or community, apps whenever possible.
Example: You cannot export Deck data. Sending a gdpr request does not resolve this, so it creates the same problem Frank discussed in a very old school talk on âCrushing data silosâ because you are still in a silo in regards to this app individually. Sure, there is nuance here to explore, but this issue is #1 in my opinion for every prospective user there will ever be: Get your data in and out of Nextcloud with equal ease.
Happy to have done the survey and hope it is helpful in getting more input from the community. Much love! Cheers, and thank you.
I totally missed your posting about the planned survey as well.
Seen tweet at Twitter and thought âI am part of the community as well. So, who did that without ringing the bells in the forum?â
Now it is too late.
Thanks for all the feedback! Iâm sorry this didnât reach too many people before being finalized, but for a feedback tag and hopefully, we can do this regularly, every year perhaps? So, your feedback is still valuable
Forgot to mention I lost interest in the Photos app. It works, but I find it is missing the features we had in Gallery. Iâm glad we have a photo app, but do not recommend it if you have an alternative available.
An app I love is FlowUpload. It has a wonderful layout and makes it easy to upload folders and files to multiple locations. Even has the ability to resume failed uploads!!! It is the best and deserves desktop and mobile app support. Very strongly recommended!
that wouldâve been more helpful 
Otherwise I would have been silent actually.
in the forum?â