I didn’t find any volunteers. So no success on that.
But I decided to keep on with my own Server - Why? I think it is much more easier to write a backend which is specialised on handling notes and todolists. With this, app development seems to be much more comfortable and you don’t need a “bulky” Nextcloud Server if you just want to use notes/todolist and share them.
At the moment notes and todolists are stored as Strings in a Database. But notes are just simple HTML. So it won’t be difficult to export them as files into nextcloud - That’s something I had in mind from the beginning
Encrypting files (notes) is already possible. Therefore you need to set a password. This password is stored per hash inside the Database (the server just knows the hash, not the password. Therefore the client application is generating the hash and sends it to the server). This makes it possible to share encrypted files. All users that have access to the encrypted note need to know the password.
Looking at the original requests in this thread… Nextcloud is still at the stage of sorting out Markdown, but some things have changed.
Rich Text editing (aka WYSIWYG) - Supported in the Tiptap engine, but currently only being used for Markdown. Also, the Carnet app is the most actively developed Nextcloud app supporting html.
Ability to attach files (anything) to notes - Projects functionality allows you to combine files, Deck cards and Talk conversations. Still missing Tasks and Calendar entries
Ability to have inline images including drap and drop - Could be potentially addressed by adding some sort of inline project view, or drag and drop interface, for Nextcloud projects.
Ability to import existing EN notes - Possible via Qownnotes desktop app to markdown.
A web clipper browser extension Full Page Clipping, Clip Selected Text, Image Clipping is available via the Qownnotes Web Companion. It requires having the Qownnotes desktop open on your computer to work...
Note indexing for search - still being developed as various apps.
It’s obvious that most people prefer simple text editing (esp., using markdown) over feature rich text editing with full web clipping capabilities.
Since no one seems to care for a real replacement for Evernote, I think it would be better to have a separate thread to discuss how to improve the existing MD editors already prevalent in NC.
I’ll continue my search for a replacement for Evernote (it’s been years now) elsewhere.
If you want Nextcloud to literally replace Evernote via singular app, assume it will not. There is no reason to close this thread just because we are not willing to directly code the answer ourselves. Rather, the Nextcloud system itself will gradually grow to replicate and replace the important features of Evernote over time with greater integration and interoperability between it’s many apps, already in early infancy via Projects.
Projects overview could allow disparate elements: notes, photos, tasks, deck boards, calendars, bookmarks, tasks and files to be auto-previewed and combined in a relatable manner to Evernote.
I had no expectation that a single app would be a replacement. I have mentioned the need for a separate web clipping (not just some screenshot tool) app. An Android app woul be needed as well. It’s an ecosystem with NC at the heart.
My expectation was, at the time, to drum up support/interest for an Evernote (EN) replacement that could mimic key functionality of EN (esp., rich text editing and clipping). I obviously failed at that.
I don’t buy into your optimism that an EN replacement will somehow organically grow through the revisions of multiple MD editors. If the Nextcloud community were interested in an EN replacement there would already be some type of discussion around it (this thread is not a discussion about how we can move the idea forward but instead became a “which MD editor is more popular” thread).
How much time do we (the FOSS community in general) need in order to start focusing on really delivering an EN replacement (esp., with the key requirements listed on the first post)? I’ve personally been searching for a replacement for, at least, the past 5 years and have found nothing even close (though I was excited a few times by promising projects).
In the end this is all about the will of FOSS developers. If they are not interested in it then it will never come into existence. I really think that this highlights the gap between the FOSS development community and the FOSS end user community.
I am an avid fanboy of Nextcloud. I’m proud of the community for what they have built. I just wish we had a good replacement for Evernote. Sorry for the rant.
Same here, still trying to build my own EN alternative solution wiht Joplin and NC but it is still not there…There must be many ppl interested in an FOSS solution, I would think many would even offer to pay…
i’m also a keen noter, and sorry but like many others i don’t need wysiwyg.
i use zim on laptop (it rocks all socks off) and joplin synced on nc to get things mobile to laptop… (its good but hopeless at linking due to its use of long number file names)
neither are integrated, but both can be sync’d.
obvs it wd be much better if cd just use a simple programme to cover all needs.
someone built and is still working on a joplin web app, but they dont use nc and aren’t integrating it.
i wd also much prefer if joplin switched to txt files, but laurent is decided on the issue.
does anyone know how to access zim notes from a mobile app?
Currently, Joplin Web cannot interface with Nextcloud. As previously discussed, Joplin does not work as a rich text replacement for Evernote. It’s closest strength is properly reading .enex format notes.
Personally, I’ve now gone back to Evernote. It simply is not possible to find a rich text based open source application, which can match Evernote’s features as of 10/2019 + maintain mobile support and the ability to email in notes. Others have different needs, but I have over 5,000 notes in Evernote even though I abandoned it for open source tools two years ago. I’ve tried the alternatives extensively, and they are all lacking.
Example:
Record an audio file directly into Evernote, which will automatically be saved into a specific codec up to 200mb in size.
Take, crop and upload photos directly into a note.
Record and upload videos directly into a note.
Merge notes, possibly many at a time.
Rich text interface
Add caldav compatible reminders to any note
All of these activities are effortless!
This entire process is effortless in Evernote. Big problem is it runs really poorly once you have this many notes and crash on mobile a lot!! Best Nextcloud features I use in addition to Evernote are: Tasks, Calendars, Bookmarks, Deck (can’t wait for CalDav support). Notes are fine as text, but literally don’t compare + take a lot more time to create.
the idea is to make this (or a port of the web companion) a project in the GSoC season next year, if Joplin get accepted.
We are happy about any support, join us on
