Can someone explain what this message means: [Apps have no compatible version for this NC version available

[nextadmins]

that means that all apps with ‘no compatible version’ might not work any more if you update. They might become less as you postpone the update a bit

for a smooth an successful update experience:

• be sure to be on the ‘stable’ Update channel

• do the upgrades from the command line rather than via the frontend (you need ssh access to your server). See below

assumes that your nextcloud data root is in /var/www/nextcloud/

you might need to replace the apache by the user your files belong to

[root@XXX ~]# ls -l /var/www/nextcloud/
total 164
drwxr-xr-x. 43 apache apache 4096 22. Okt 19:34 3rdparty
drwxr-xr-x. 55 apache apache 4096 22. Okt 19:34 apps
-rw-r–r–. 1 apache apache 19327 6. Okt 09:15 AUTHORS
drwxr-xr-x. 2 apache apache 4096 22. Okt 19:34 config
-rw-r–r–. 1 apache apache 4095 6. Okt 09:15 console.php
-rw-r–r–. 1 apache apache 34520 6. Okt 09:15 COPYING
drwxr-xr-x. 22 apache apache 4096 22. Okt 19:34 core

advantage of command line:

• you can see what hppens

• if s.th. goes wrong, you have proper error reports that you can directly ask google or the nextcloud forum for

sample update:

[root@XXX ~]# sudo -u apache php /var/www/nextcloud/updater/updater.phar
Nextcloud Updater - version: v24.0.0beta3-1-g67bf13b dirty

Current version is 24.0.4.

Update to Nextcloud 24.0.6 available. (channel: “stable”)
Following file will be downloaded automatically: https://download.nextcloud.com/server/releases/nextcloud-24.0.6.zip
Open changelog

Steps that will be executed:
Check for expected files
Check for write permissions
Create backup
Downloading
Verify integrity
Extracting
Enable maintenance mode
Replace entry points
Delete old files
Move new files in place
Done

Start update? [y/N] y

Info: Pressing Ctrl-C will finish the currently running step and then stops the updater.

[] Check for expected files
[] Check for write permissions
[] Create backup
[] Downloading
[] Verify integrity
[] Extracting
[] Enable maintenance mode
[] Replace entry points
[] Delete old files
[] Move new files in place
[] Done

Update of code successful.

Should the “occ upgrade” command be executed? [Y/n] y
Nextcloud or one of the apps require upgrade - only a limited number of commands are available
You may use your browser or the occ upgrade command to do the upgrade
Setting log level to debug
Repair step: Repair MySQL collation
Repair info: Not a mysql database → nothing to do
Repair step: Repair SQLite autoincrement
Repair step: Copy data from accounts table when migrating from ownCloud
Repair step: Drop account terms table when migrating from ownCloud
Updating database schema
Updated database
Disabled incompatible app: ocsms
Updating …
Updated to 2.12.1
Update app calendar from App Store
Repair step: Update name of the stored view
Update app contacts from App Store
Update app mail from App Store
Repair step: Restore default tags that are missing
Repair info: Looking up default tags
Repair info: 2 accounts to check found
Restore default tags that are missing

Starting …
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Starting …
2/2 [============================] 100%
Repair step: Add a generated message-id to all Mail messages that have none
Repair info: Looking up messages without a message-id
Repair step: Purify and migrate collected mail addresses
Purify and migrate collected mail addresses

Starting …
0/65 [>---------------------------] 0%
Starting …
65/65 [============================] 100%
Repair step: Insert background jobs for all accounts
Insert background jobs for all accounts

Starting …
0/2 [>---------------------------] 0%
Starting …
2/2 [============================] 100%
Repair step: Make Mail itinerary extractor executable
Repair step: Create or update provisioned Mail accounts
Repair info: 0 accounts provisioned
Repair step: Repair Broken Threads for all mail accounts
Repair info: Repaired threads, 0 messages updated
Update app tasks from App Store
Repair step: Migrate legacy conversation reading states
Migrate legacy conversation reading states

Starting …
0/0 [----------->----------------] 0%
Repair step: Repair MySQL collation
Repair info: Not a mysql database → nothing to do
Repair step: Repair mime types
Repair step: Clean tags and favorites
Repair info: 0 tags of deleted users have been removed.
Repair info: 0 tags for delete files have been removed.
Repair info: 0 tag entries for deleted tags have been removed.
Repair info: 0 tags with no entries have been removed.
Repair step: Repair invalid shares
Repair step: Move .step file of updater to backup location
Repair info: .step file exists
Repair info: .step-previous-update removed
Repair info: .step file moved to .step-previous-update
Repair step: Add move avatar background job
Repair info: Repair step already executed
Repair step: Add preview cleanup background jobs
Repair step: Migrate oauth2_clients table to nextcloud schema
Repair info: Update the oauth2_access_tokens table schema.
Repair info: Update the oauth2_clients table schema.
Repair step: Fix potential broken mount points
Repair info: No mounts updated
Repair step: Repair language codes
Repair step: Install new core bundle components
Repair step: Add log rotate job
Repair step: Clear frontend caches
Repair info: Image cache cleared
Repair info: SCSS cache cleared
Repair info: JS cache cleared
Repair step: Clear every generated avatar on major updates
Repair step: Add preview background cleanup job
Repair step: Queue a one-time job to cleanup old backups of the updater
Repair step: Cleanup invalid photocache files for carddav
Repair step: Add background job to cleanup login flow v2 tokens
Repair step: Remove potentially over exposing share links
Repair info: No need to remove link shares.
Repair step: Clear access cache of projects
Repair step: Reset generated avatar flag
Repair step: Keep legacy encryption enabled
Repair step: Check encryption key format
Repair step: Remove old dashboard app config data
Repair step: Add job to cleanup the bruteforce entries
Repair step: Queue a one-time job to check for user uploaded certificates
Repair step: Repair DAV shares
Repair step: Add background job to set the lookup server share state for users
Repair step: Add token cleanup job
Starting code integrity check…
Finished code integrity check
Update successful
Maintenance mode is kept active
Resetting log level

Keep maintenance mode active? [y/N] n
Maintenance mode disabled

Maintenance mode is disabled

[n0rw3g1an]

I’m not sure if your issues with upgrading NC are anything close to what I have experienced, but if it points you in the right direction, that’s good: I am running NC in a docker container on Unraid. When I update, there are timeouts on several of the steps in the update process, for instance on the backup step. It can seem like the update fails, but all I have to do is wait for a few minutes and then refresh the web page. The first time this happened, I ended up reinstalling the whole thing, which was completely unnecessary…

Also, you do NOT want to upgrade MariaDB beyond 1.5. I have done that a couple of times, thinking that would be fine, but the changes to DBs in 1.6 are still not supported by NC, as far as I know - please correct me if I am wrong.

My advice right now is to stay on MariaDB 1.5 and stay on the Stable channel for NC updates. And do backups.

[tflidd]

I just marked one of the answers as the “right” one.

The update warning shown might be out of date if the information was perhaps cached. However, if it shows some apps you really need, check out on apps.nextcloud.com, if the new version is supported, and if no go to the bug tracker, what the status is.

In some cases, they just need to change the supported version string, but this should be tested before. Since many apps are supported just by the community, you can help out by testing, we try to keep a list for the new version (it was already linked above).

[arif.k]

That’s why I’ve been getting email about some random questions.

[eredwood007]

Thank you cyberjohn58. I was thinking that as but I need input like yours. I really love working with Nextcloud the program has come along way. I understand the updates are important, I just hate down loading an app and it breaks on the next update.

Again Thanks.

[eredwood007]

Thank you Jondaley…

[JohnAtl]

My advice is to install Timeshift. It’s especially nice on btrfs. Timeshift gives you an easy way to back up to previous snapshots if things go south. There’s also a timeshift-autosnap-apt that will automatically do a snapshot before installing software using apt.

GitHub - wmutschl/timeshift-autosnap-apt: Timeshift auto-snapshot script for...

from https://mutschler.dev/ who also has instructions on setting up timeshift, etc.

[eredwood007]

Thanks for your reply, but I do have a question about your NC backup process. Are you using a terminal script or a software program?

[cyberjohn58]

My Nextcloud is a VM in Proxmox and which I have a complete backup of the Nextcloud server every night to a separate TrueNAS server. This has save me many times in the past.