Toolbar Ordering doesn't work for Talk

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The Basics

  • Nextcloud Server version (e.g., 29.x.x):
    • Hub 25 Autumn (32.0.5)
  • Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 24.04):
    • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS
  • Web server and version (e.g, Apache 2.4.25):
    • Nginx

Summary of the issue you are facing:

Can’t order Talk icon in toolbar

Steps to replicate it (hint: details matter!):slight_smile:

Appearance menu, under Navigation bar settings.

Move the Talk icon to a new position. Refresh the page.

Log entries

none

Nextcloud

n/a

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Web Browser

If the problem is related to the Web interface, open your browser inspector Console and Network tabs while refreshing (reloading) and reproducing the problem. Provide any relevant output/errors here that appear.

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Web server / Reverse Proxy

The output of your Apache/nginx/system log in /var/log/____:

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Configuration

Nextcloud

The output of occ config:list system or similar is best, but, if not possible, the contents of your config.php file from /path/to/nextcloud is fine (make sure to remove any identifiable information!):

{
    "system": {
        "htaccess.RewriteBase": "\/",
        "memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
        "apps_paths": [
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/apps",
                "url": "\/apps",
                "writable": false
            },
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps",
                "url": "\/custom_apps",
                "writable": true
            }
        ],
        "upgrade.disable-web": true,
        "instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "trusted_domains": [
            "tiltbox.tiltsoft.com"
        ],
        "datadirectory": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbtype": "mysql",
        "version": "32.0.5.0",
        "overwrite.cli.url": "http:\/\/tiltbox.tiltsoft.com",
        "dbname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbhost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbport": "",
        "dbtableprefix": "oc_",
        "mysql.utf8mb4": true,
        "dbuser": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "installed": true,
        "maintenance": false,
        "maintenance_window_start": 1,
        "default_phone_region": "US",
        "mail_from_address": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtpmode": "smtp",
        "mail_smtpauth": 1,
        "mail_sendmailmode": "smtp",
        "mail_smtpname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtppassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtphost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtpport": "587",
        "mail_domain": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "loglevel": 3,
        "overwriteprotocol": "https",
        "twofactor_enforced": "true",
        "simpleSignUpLink.shown": false,
        "twofactor_enforced_groups": [
            "admin"
        ],
        "twofactor_enforced_excluded_groups": [],
        "defaultapp": "",
        "app_install_overwrite": [
            "documentserver_community",
            "integration_forgejo"
        ]
    }
}

Apps

The output of occ app:list (if possible).

Enabled:

  • activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • app_api: 32.0.0
  • bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • calendar: 6.1.5
  • circles: 32.0.0
  • cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
  • comments: 1.22.0
  • contacts: 8.3.0
  • cookbook: 0.11.5
  • cospend: 3.2.0
  • dav: 1.34.2
  • deck: 1.16.3
  • documentserver_community: 0.2.1
  • drawio: 3.1.2
  • encryption: 2.20.0
  • external: 7.0.0
  • federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
  • files: 2.4.0
  • files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • files_reminders: 1.5.0
  • files_sharing: 1.24.1
  • files_trashbin: 1.22.0
  • files_versions: 1.25.0
  • forms: 5.2.3
  • geoblocker: 0.5.19
  • gpxpod: 7.2.4
  • impersonate: 3.0.1
  • integration_forgejo: 1.0.18
  • logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
  • mail: 5.6.8
  • ncgantt: 0.0.1
  • notes: 4.12.4
  • notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • oauth2: 1.20.0
  • onlyoffice: 9.12.0
  • password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  • photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
  • polls: 8.6.3
  • privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  • profile: 1.1.0
  • provisioning_api: 1.22.0
  • serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
  • settings: 1.15.1
  • sharebymail: 1.22.0
  • spreed: 22.0.8
  • survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0
  • systemtags: 1.22.0
  • text: 6.0.1
  • theming: 2.7.0
  • timemanager: 0.3.19
  • timetracker: 0.0.86
  • twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
  • twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
  • updatenotification: 1.22.0
  • user_status: 1.12.0
  • viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  • weather_status: 1.12.0
  • workflowengine: 2.14.0
    Disabled:
  • admin_audit: 1.22.0
  • contactsinteraction: 1.13.1 (installed 1.11.0)
  • dashboard: 7.12.0 (installed 7.10.0)
  • federation: 1.22.0 (installed 1.20.0)
  • files_external: 1.24.1
  • firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 3.0.0)
  • nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 2.0.0)
  • recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 3.0.0)
  • related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0 (installed 1.5.0)
  • support: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 2.0.0)
  • suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
  • twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0 (installed 4.0.0)
  • user_ldap: 1.23.0
  • webhook_listeners: 1.3.0 (installed 1.1.0-dev)

Hi all,
I have Nextcloud Hub 25 Autumn (32.0.5) and it looks like since version 32, it’s still possible for users to reorganize icons on their toolbars, but the Talk icon always stays on the left, as the first one, no matter where you move it in the Appearance menu, under Navigation bar settings.
I can move any icon, and I can move Talk, but once the page is refreshed, the icons are where I put them, except Talk, staying on the left-most one.

Any idea?

Screenshot 2026-01-21 at 20.53.05

There is also a Github issue for this: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/55266