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The Basics
- Nextcloud Server version (e.g., 29.x.x):
32.0.1
- Operating system and version (e.g., Ubuntu 24.04):
Unraid 7.x
- Web server and version (e.g, Apache 2.4.25):
n/a or unknown
- Reverse proxy and version _(e.g. nginx 1.27.2)
Caddy2
- PHP version (e.g, 8.3):
n/a or unknown
- Is this the first time you’ve seen this error? (Yes / No):
it has occurred ever since I installed OnlyOffice about 2 months ago
- When did this problem seem to first start?
it has occurred ever since I installed OnlyOffice about 2 months ago
- Installation method (e.g. AlO, NCP, Bare Metal/Archive, etc.)
Unraid app / docker
- Are you using CloudfIare, mod_security, or similar? (Yes / No)
no
Summary of the issue you are facing:
Every day, the connection to OnlyOffice dies. As admin, when going to the ‘ONLYOFFICE’ admin page, I get the following error appearing:
”Error when trying to connect (Error occurred in the document service: Error while downloading the document file to be converted.”
I can resolve the issue simply by clicking the ‘save’ button and the connection is re-established.
This seems to have been previously reported here but there was no answer? Onlyoffice need to reconnect every day?
Steps to replicate it (hint: details matter!):
-
Install OnlyOffice (perhaps requires Nextcloud and OnlyOffice to be installed via Unraid?)
-
Connect Nextcloud to OnlyOffice
-
Wait until next day
Log entries
Nextcloud
Please provide the log entries from your Nextcloud log that are generated during the time of problem (via the Copy raw option from Administration settings->Logging screen or from your nextcloud.log located in your data directory). Feel free to use a pastebin/gist service if necessary.
no specific errors at time problem is discovered, but this seems relevant:
{"reqId":"8NwQirGx5qoMwdujnGYO","level":3,"time":"2025-11-04T13:15:01+00:00","remoteAddr":"10.8.32.3","user":"2222","app":"PHP","method":"GET","url":"/ocs/v1.php/cloud/capabilities?format=json","message":"OCA\\Onlyoffice\\FileCreator::create(): Implicitly marking parameter $templateId as nullable is deprecated, the explicit nullable type must be used instead at /config/www/nextcloud/apps/onlyoffice/lib/FileCreator.php#145","userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows) mirall/3.14.13.14-Win64 (build 20240927) (Nextcloud, windows-10.0.26100 ClientArchitecture: x86_64 OsArchitecture: x86_64)","version":"32.0.1.2","clientReqId":"e038af08-ce2c-4922-8b93-d4f5b410c2af","data":{"app":"PHP"},"id":"690a4faaae709"}
OR possibly this:
{"reqId":"BLMGQC5L6Xd0Capp8qd5","level":3,"time":"2025-11-04T19:00:27+00:00","remoteAddr":"10.8.32.3","user":"1111","app":"richdocuments","method":"GET","url":"/core/preview?fileId=1713752&x=32&y=32&mimeFallback=true&v=a6249f&a=0","message":"Failed to convert preview: Could not detect any host","userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:144.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/144.0","version":"32.0.1.2","exception":{"Exception":"OCP\\Http\\Client\\LocalServerException","Message":"Could not detect any host","Code":0,"Trace":[{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Http/Client/Client.php","line":271,"function":"preventLocalAddress","class":"OC\\Http\\Client\\Client","type":"->"},{"file":"/config/www/nextcloud/apps/richdocuments/lib/Service/RemoteService.php","line":94,"function":"post","class":"OC\\Http\\Client\\Client","type":"->","args":["*** sensitive parameters replaced ***"]},{"file":"/config/www/nextcloud/apps/richdocuments/lib/Service/RemoteService.php","line":68,"function":"convertTo","class":"OCA\\Richdocuments\\Service\\RemoteService","type":"->"},{"file":"/config/www/nextcloud/apps/richdocuments/lib/Preview/Office.php","line":43,"function":"convertFileTo","class":"OCA\\Richdocuments\\Service\\RemoteService","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Preview/GeneratorHelper.php","line":45,"function":"getThumbnail","class":"OCA\\Richdocuments\\Preview\\Office","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Preview/Generator.php","line":342,"function":"getThumbnail","class":"OC\\Preview\\GeneratorHelper","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Preview/Generator.php","line":313,"function":"generateProviderPreview","class":"OC\\Preview\\Generator","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Preview/Generator.php","line":117,"function":"getMaxPreview","class":"OC\\Preview\\Generator","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Preview/Generator.php","line":87,"function":"generatePreviews","class":"OC\\Preview\\Generator","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/PreviewManager.php","line":161,"function":"getPreview","class":"OC\\Preview\\Generator","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/core/Controller/PreviewController.php","line":166,"function":"getPreview","class":"OC\\PreviewManager","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/core/Controller/PreviewController.php","line":128,"function":"fetchPreview","class":"OC\\Core\\Controller\\PreviewController","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/AppFramework/Http/Dispatcher.php","line":204,"function":"getPreviewByFileId","class":"OC\\Core\\Controller\\PreviewController","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/AppFramework/Http/Dispatcher.php","line":118,"function":"executeController","class":"OC\\AppFramework\\Http\\Dispatcher","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/AppFramework/App.php","line":153,"function":"dispatch","class":"OC\\AppFramework\\Http\\Dispatcher","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Route/Router.php","line":321,"function":"main","class":"OC\\AppFramework\\App","type":"::"},{"file":"/app/www/public/lib/base.php","line":1061,"function":"match","class":"OC\\Route\\Router","type":"->"},{"file":"/app/www/public/index.php","line":25,"function":"handleRequest","class":"OC","type":"::"}],"File":"/app/www/public/lib/private/Http/Client/Client.php","Line":163,"message":"Failed to convert preview: Could not detect any host","exception":[],"CustomMessage":"Failed to convert preview: Could not detect any host"},"id":"690a4faaae5f2"}
Web Browser
If the problem is related to the Web interface, open your browser inspector Console and Network tabs while refreshing (reloading) and reproducing the problem. Provide any relevant output/errors here that appear.
n/a
Web server / Reverse Proxy
The output of your Apache/nginx/system log in /var/log/____:
n/a
Configuration
Nextcloud
The output of occ config:list system or similar is best, but, if not possible, the contents of your config.php file from /path/to/nextcloud is fine (make sure to remove any identifiable information!):
# occ config:list
{
"system": {
"memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
"datadirectory": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"trusted_domains": [
"IP:PORT",
"DOMAIN"
],
"trusted_proxies": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"dbtype": "sqlite3",
"version": "32.0.1.2",
"overwrite.cli.url": "https:\/\/IP:PORT",
"installed": true,
"maintenance": false,
"loglevel": 2,
"filelocking.enabled": "true",
"memcache.locking": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
"mail_smtpmode": "smtp",
"mail_sendmailmode": "smtp",
"upgrade.disable-web": true
},
"apps": {
"activity": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"app_api": {
"installed_version": "32.0.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"backgroundjob": {
"lastjob": "1"
},
"bruteforcesettings": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": ""
},
"calendar": {
"installed_version": "6.0.2",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": ""
},
"circles": {
"installed_version": "32.0.0",
"types": "filesystem,dav",
"enabled": "yes",
"loopback_tmp_scheme": "https",
"maintenance_run": "0",
"maintenance_update": "{\"maximum\":3,\"5\":1676689201,\"4\":1677117602,\"3\":1762283100,\"2\":1762283100,\"1\":1762283400}",
"migration_run": "0",
"migration_22": "1"
},
"cloud_federation_api": {
"installed_version": "1.16.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"comments": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"contacts": {
"installed_version": "8.0.5",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": "dav"
},
"contactsinteraction": {
"installed_version": "1.13.1",
"types": "dav",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"core": {
"installedat": "1640577166.1195",
"lastupdatedat": "0",
"vendor": "nextcloud",
"public_webdav": "dav\/appinfo\/v1\/publicwebdav.php",
"public_files": "files_sharing\/public.php",
"installed.bundles": "[\"CoreBundle\"]",
"theming.variables": "b92d206521717ac032f8aa58d3c7ff2f",
"lastcron": 1762283400,
"backgroundjobs_mode": "cron",
"lastupdateResult": "{\"version\":\"27.0.2.1\",\"versionstring\":\"Nextcloud 27.0.2\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/download.nextcloud.com\\\/server\\\/releases\\\/nextcloud-27.0.2.zip\",\"web\":\"https:\\\/\\\/docs.nextcloud.com\\\/server\\\/27\\\/admin_manual\\\/maintenance\\\/upgrade.html\",\"changes\":\"https:\\\/\\\/updates.nextcloud.com\\\/changelog_server\\\/?version=27.0.2\",\"autoupdater\":\"1\",\"eol\":\"0\"}",
"moveavatarsdone": "yes",
"previewsCleanedUp": "1",
"emailTestSuccessful": "0",
"files_metadata_installed": "1",
"metadataGenerationDone": true,
"files_metadata": {
"photos-original_date_time": {
"value": null,
"type": "int",
"etag": "",
"indexed": true,
"editPermission": 0
},
"photos-size": {
"value": null,
"type": "array",
"etag": "",
"indexed": false,
"editPermission": 0
},
"photos-exif": {
"value": null,
"type": "array",
"etag": "",
"indexed": false,
"editPermission": 0
},
"photos-ifd0": {
"value": null,
"type": "array",
"etag": "",
"indexed": false,
"editPermission": 0
},
"photos-gps": {
"value": null,
"type": "array",
"etag": "",
"indexed": false,
"editPermission": 0
},
"photos-place": {
"value": null,
"type": "string",
"etag": "",
"indexed": true,
"editPermission": 0
},
"blurhash": {
"value": null,
"type": "string",
"etag": "04e8669ae0e2cd739e5db6956d825dd7",
"indexed": false,
"editPermission": 0
}
},
"oc.integritycheck.checker": []
},
"dashboard": {
"installed_version": "7.12.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"dav": {
"installed_version": "1.34.2",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes",
"regeneratedBirthdayCalendarsForYearFix": "yes",
"buildCalendarSearchIndex": "yes",
"buildCalendarReminderIndex": "yes",
"chunks_migrated": "1",
"builtSocialSearchIndex": "yes"
},
"federatedfilesharing": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"federation": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "authentication",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files": {
"installed_version": "2.4.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes",
"mimetype_version": "30.0.4.1"
},
"files_downloadlimit": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files_pdfviewer": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files_reminders": {
"installed_version": "1.5.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files_rightclick": {
"installed_version": "1.6.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "no"
},
"files_sharing": {
"installed_version": "1.24.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files_trashbin": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "filesystem,dav",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"files_versions": {
"installed_version": "1.25.0",
"types": "filesystem,dav",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"firstrunwizard": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"logreader": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"lookup_server_connector": {
"installed_version": "1.20.0",
"types": "authentication",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"mail": {
"installed_version": "5.5.11",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": ""
},
"nextcloud_announcements": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes",
"pub_date": "Thu, 24 Oct 2019 00:00:00 +0200"
},
"notifications": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"oauth2": {
"installed_version": "1.20.0",
"types": "authentication",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"onlyoffice": {
"installed_version": "9.11.0",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": "prevent_group_restriction",
"demo": "{\"available\":true,\"enabled\":false,\"start\":{\"date\":\"2025-10-14 16:54:03.487567\",\"timezone_type\":3,\"timezone\":\"UTC\"}}",
"DocumentServerUrl": "https:\/\/DOMAIN:PORT\/",
"verify_peer_off": "false",
"DocumentServerInternalUrl": "",
"jwt_secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"jwt_header": "",
"StorageUrl": "",
"settings_error": "Error occurred in the document service: Error while downloading the document file to be converted.",
"defFormats": "{\"doc\":\"false\",\"docm\":\"false\",\"docx\":\"true\",\"dot\":\"false\",\"dotm\":\"false\",\"dotx\":\"false\",\"epub\":\"false\",\"fb2\":\"false\",\"fodt\":\"false\",\"htm\":\"false\",\"html\":\"false\",\"hwp\":\"false\",\"hwpx\":\"false\",\"md\":\"false\",\"mht\":\"false\",\"mhtml\":\"false\",\"odt\":\"false\",\"ott\":\"false\",\"pages\":\"false\",\"rtf\":\"false\",\"stw\":\"false\",\"sxw\":\"false\",\"txt\":\"false\",\"wps\":\"false\",\"xml\":\"false\",\"csv\":\"false\",\"fods\":\"false\",\"numbers\":\"false\",\"ods\":\"false\",\"ots\":\"false\",\"sxc\":\"false\",\"xls\":\"false\",\"xlsb\":\"false\",\"xlsm\":\"false\",\"xlsx\":\"true\",\"xlt\":\"false\",\"xltm\":\"false\",\"xltx\":\"false\",\"fodp\":\"false\",\"key\":\"false\",\"odg\":\"false\",\"odp\":\"false\",\"otp\":\"false\",\"pot\":\"false\",\"potm\":\"false\",\"potx\":\"false\",\"pps\":\"false\",\"ppsm\":\"false\",\"ppsx\":\"false\",\"ppt\":\"false\",\"pptm\":\"false\",\"pptx\":\"true\",\"sxi\":\"false\",\"djvu\":\"false\",\"docxf\":\"true\",\"oform\":\"true\",\"oxps\":\"false\",\"pdf\":\"true\",\"xps\":\"false\",\"vsdx\":\"true\",\"vsdm\":\"false\",\"vssm\":\"false\",\"vssx\":\"false\",\"vstm\":\"false\",\"vstx\":\"false\"}",
"editFormats": "{\"epub\":\"false\",\"fb2\":\"false\",\"html\":\"false\",\"odt\":\"false\",\"ott\":\"false\",\"rtf\":\"false\",\"txt\":\"true\",\"csv\":\"true\",\"ods\":\"false\",\"ots\":\"false\",\"odp\":\"false\",\"otp\":\"false\"}",
"enableSharing": "false",
"sameTab": "true",
"preview": "false",
"advanced": "false",
"cronChecker": "true",
"emailNotifications": "true",
"versionHistory": "true",
"groups": "[\"Family\",\"admin\"]",
"customizationChat": "true",
"customizationCompactHeader": "true",
"customizationFeedback": "true",
"customizationForcesave": "false",
"liveViewOnShare": "false",
"customizationHelp": "true",
"customizationReviewDisplay": "original",
"customizationTheme": "theme-system",
"unknownAuthor": ""
},
"password_policy": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "authentication",
"enabled": "yes",
"enforceUpperLowerCase": "1",
"enforceNumericCharacters": "1",
"enforceSpecialCharacters": "1"
},
"photos": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.1",
"types": "dav,authentication",
"enabled": "yes",
"lastPlaceMappedUser": "rjr_backup",
"lastPlaceMappingDone": "true"
},
"privacy": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"profile": {
"installed_version": "1.1.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"provisioning_api": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "prevent_group_restriction",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"recommendations": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"related_resources": {
"installed_version": "3.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"richdocuments": {
"installed_version": "9.0.1",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": "filesystem,prevent_group_restriction",
"wopi_url": "",
"disable_certificate_verification": "yes",
"public_wopi_url": "https:\/\/IP:PORT",
"use_groups": "Family|admin",
"doc_format": "ooxml",
"edit_groups": "Family|admin",
"canonical_webroot": "",
"external_apps": ""
},
"richdocumentscode": {
"enabled": "no",
"installed_version": "25.4.504",
"types": ""
},
"serverinfo": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes",
"cached_count_filecache": 614757,
"cached_count_storages": 9,
"size_appdata_storage": -1,
"cached_count_appdata_files": 389261
},
"settings": {
"installed_version": "1.15.1",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"sharebymail": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"spreed": {
"installed_version": "22.0.2",
"enabled": "yes",
"types": "dav,prevent_group_restriction",
"has_reference_id": "yes",
"signaling_ticket_secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"project_access_invalidated": "1",
"signaling_token_privkey_es256": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"signaling_token_pubkey_es256": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
},
"support": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "session",
"enabled": "yes",
"SwitchUpdaterServerHasRun": "yes"
},
"survey_client": {
"installed_version": "4.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"systemtags": {
"installed_version": "1.22.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"text": {
"installed_version": "6.0.1",
"types": "dav",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"theming": {
"installed_version": "2.7.0",
"types": "logging",
"enabled": "yes",
"name": "Nextcloud",
"cachebuster": "3",
"url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
},
"twofactor_backupcodes": {
"installed_version": "1.21.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"updatenotification": {
"installed_version": "1.17.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "no",
"update_check_errors": "0",
"calendar": "4.4.4",
"mail": "3.3.1",
"spreed": "17.0.3",
"richdocuments": "8.1.1",
"core": "27.0.2.1",
"contacts": "5.3.2",
"bruteforcesettings": "2.4.0"
},
"user_status": {
"installed_version": "1.12.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"viewer": {
"installed_version": "5.0.0-dev.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"weather_status": {
"installed_version": "1.12.0",
"types": "",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"webhook_listeners": {
"installed_version": "1.3.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
},
"workflowengine": {
"installed_version": "2.14.0",
"types": "filesystem",
"enabled": "yes"
}
}
}
Apps
The output of occ app:list (if possible).
occ app:list
Enabled:
- activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
- app_api: 32.0.0
- bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
- calendar: 6.0.2
- circles: 32.0.0
- cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
- comments: 1.22.0
- contacts: 8.0.5
- contactsinteraction: 1.13.1
- dashboard: 7.12.0
- dav: 1.34.2
- federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
- federation: 1.22.0
- files: 2.4.0
- files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
- files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
- files_reminders: 1.5.0
- files_sharing: 1.24.0
- files_trashbin: 1.22.0
- files_versions: 1.25.0
- firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0
- logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
- lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
- mail: 5.5.11
- nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0
- notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
- oauth2: 1.20.0
- onlyoffice: 9.11.0
- password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
- photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
- privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
- profile: 1.1.0
- provisioning_api: 1.22.0
- recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0
- related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0
- serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
- settings: 1.15.1
- sharebymail: 1.22.0
- spreed: 22.0.2
- support: 4.0.0-dev.0
- survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0
- systemtags: 1.22.0
- text: 6.0.1
- theming: 2.7.0
- twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
- user_status: 1.12.0
- viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
- weather_status: 1.12.0
- webhook_listeners: 1.3.0
- workflowengine: 2.14.0
Disabled: - admin_audit: 1.22.0
- encryption: 2.20.0
- files_external: 1.24.0
- files_rightclick: 1.6.0 (installed 1.6.0)
- richdocuments: 9.0.1 (installed 9.0.1)
- suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
- twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0
- twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
- updatenotification: 1.22.0 (installed 1.17.0)
- user_ldap: 1.23.0
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