# One address book between all users

**URL:** <https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814>\
**Category:** ℹ️ Support\
**Tags:** contacts-app\
**Created:** [May 7, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814 "2020-05-07T18:10:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/christiaan/32/5795_2.png) [@christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/christiaan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/1 "2020-05-07T18:10:17Z")

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Hi, I’m new to Nextcloud and I’m just trying to get my head around the Contacts app.

Is it possible to have just one address book shared between all users (or all users in a particular User Group) that everybody can edit, including adding/removing contacts groups, and sync to their macs/iphones?

Does one user need to create an address book and share it with everybody else to do this, or is there some default shared address book that I’m not seeing somehow.

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**Author:** ![j-ed](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/j-ed/32/7281_2.png) [@j-ed](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/j-ed)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/2 "2020-05-08T07:57:32Z")

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Usually at least one user need to create an address book and share it with a group of users. Edit permissions can be granted if necessary. Unfortunately you’re not explaining what the main purpose is which you want to achieve. I personally made the experience that it is always better to have only one editor per address book and all other users get read access to it. Otherwise everyone follows his own rules and the records are not correctly filled with data.

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**Author:** ![christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/christiaan/32/5795_2.png) [@christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/christiaan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 8:28am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/3 "2020-05-08T08:28:23Z")

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Thanks j-ed. The main purpose is to share an address book across all users that each user can edit and maintain without having to rely on anybody else.

We’re a small business of 3 people and historically we’ve shared an address book (using iCloud) between 5 people without any problems.

I have already followed the steps you described but I don’t like that the address book is then labelled as being mine instead of the whole group’s. Perhaps a way around this is to share it from a generic user admin account instead of my personal user account.

I’ve haven’t tested it fully yet but I have been noticing some weird behaviour syncing with Contacts.app in macOS (i.e. only syncing in one direction, not syncing at all). Will the above approach allow everybody to sync contacts to Contacts.app in macOS without any problems (using the macOS/iOS profile configuration?

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**Author:** ![j-ed](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/j-ed/32/7281_2.png) [@j-ed](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/j-ed)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/4 "2020-05-08T11:02:59Z")

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> [@christiaan](#):
>
> Will the above approach allow everybody to sync contacts to Contacts.app in macOS without any problems (using the macOS/iOS profile configuration?

I never had problems to sync my contacts in both directions as I used an iOS device. I could imagine, that having multiple editors on multiple devices might result in unexpected results if e.g. changes of a single record are initiated at the same time.  
Are there any related log entries in the Nextcloud log file if you try to sync a record back to the server? Afaik, changes should be instantly visible on the server on iOS.

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**Author:** ![christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/christiaan/32/5795_2.png) [@christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/christiaan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/5 "2020-05-08T13:52:21Z")

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Yeah iOS is not a problem. It’s macOS contacts.app that is.

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**Author:** ![christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/christiaan/32/5795_2.png) [@christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/christiaan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2020, 6:31pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/6 "2020-05-08T18:31:43Z")

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Found this unresolved bug from 2018:

> <https://github.com/nextcloud/contacts/issues/575>
>
> \<!--
> Please report only issues corresponding to the contacts app for Nextcloud.…
> 
> Migration and CardDAV issues belong in the server repo!
> https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues
> \--\>
> \### Steps to reproduce
> 1. complete nextcloud / php / nginx (incl. well-known rewrite) install on archlinux with all packages up-to-date
> 2. activate contacts app in nextcloud interface
> 3. connect to nextcloud user address book with macos 10.13.5 contacts app as client
> 4. connect to nextcloud user address book with ios 11.4 contacts app as client
> 
> \### Expected behaviour
> Both clients should be able to see, read and write to the address book and should reflect changes, additions and deletions.
> 
> \### Actual behaviour
> The behaviour on the ios client is fine and matches everything that happens in the the nextlcoud contacts. 
> The problem occurs with the macos contacts client. If you create a contact on macos it gets synced and appears in nextcloud. But a contact created in nextcloud or in ios does not show up in macos. And if you delete a contact in nextcloud or ios it does not get deleted in macos contacts app.
> 
> \### Server configuration
> \<!--
> You can use the Issue Template application to prefill most of the required information: https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/issuetemplate
> \--\>
> 
> \*\*Operating system\*\*:
> archlinux
> \*\*Web server:\*\*
> nginx
> \*\*Database:\*\*
> mariadb
> \*\*PHP version:\*\*
> 7.2.7-1
> \*\*Nextcloud version:\*\* (see Nextcloud admin page)
> 13.0.4-1
> \*\*Contacts version:\*\* (see Nextcloud apps page)
> 2.1.5-1
> \*\*Updated from an older Nextcloud or fresh install:\*\*
> fresh contacts install
> \*\*Signing status:\*\*
> 
> \`\`\`
> No errors have been found.
> \`\`\`
> 
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> 
> \`\`\`
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> 
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> \`\`\`
> 
> \*\*Are you using external storage, if yes which one:\*\* local/smb/sftp/...
> no
> 
> \*\*Are you using encryption:\*\* yes/no
> no
> 
> \*\*Are you using an external user-backend, if yes which one:\*\* LDAP/ActiveDirectory/Webdav/...
> no
> 
> \### Client configuration
> \*\*Browser:\*\*
> Safari
> \*\*Operating system:\*\*
> macos 10.13.5
> ios 11.4
> \*\*CardDAV-clients:\*\*
> macos contacts
> ios addresss book
> 
> \### Logs
> \#### Web server error log
> the webserver log starts with creating a new contact on ios, then syncs it to nextcloud and then opening macos contacts, the contact does not show up in macos contacts afterwards
> \`\`\`
> 172.16.2.40 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:10 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:11 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 285 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:11 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:11 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 1495 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:11 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:11 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 3393 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:12 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 285 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:15 +0200\] "OPTIONS /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:17 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:17 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 1495 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:17 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:18 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 3400 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:19 +0200\] "PUT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/E044DF69-9E12-466A-907D-F5291BFBC52B.vcf HTTP/1.1" 201 0 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:19 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 600 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:22 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 285 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:24 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 1495 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:25 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 3393 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:25 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 285 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.40 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:26 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 207 285 "-" "iOS/12.0 (16A5308e) dataaccessd/1.0"
> 172.16.2.32 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:54 +0200\] "OPTIONS /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> 172.16.2.32 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:54 +0200\] "OPTIONS /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 200 0 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> 172.16.2.32 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:54 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/principals/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 1495 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> 172.16.2.32 - - \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:54 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 401 569 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> 172.16.2.32 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:54 +0200\] "PROPFIND /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/ HTTP/1.1" 207 3400 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> 172.16.2.32 - user \[24/Jun/2018:11:06:55 +0200\] "REPORT /nextcloud/remote.php/dav/addressbooks/users/user/contacts/ HTTP/1.1" 403 5 "-" "Mac OS X/10.13.5 (17F77) AddressBook/1808.7"
> \`\`\`
> 
> \#### Nextcloud log (data/nextcloud.log)
> \`\`\`
> no log entries
> \`\`\`
> 
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And a possible fix?

> [@High Sierra address book does not sync](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/high-sierra-address-book-does-not-sync/23007/19):
>
> Hello, a little bit late, but maybe not to late. I had the same issue. The first sync was fine, but after that, I couldn’t sync anymore. After month of searching I find the problem. I use nginx. In the documentation of nextcloud 10 the following lines are written: error\_page 403 /core/templates/403.php; error\_page 404 /core/templates/404.php; after commenting them out, syncing works fine. If the problem still accords, change fastcgi\_intercept\_errors on; to fastcgi\_intercept\_errors off; …

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**Author:** ![Bernie\_O](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/bernie_o/32/40181_2.png) [@Bernie\_O](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/Bernie_O)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/7 "2020-05-09T05:55:44Z")

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Please note that macOS (as of Catalina 10.15.4) is still not able to syncronize more than one addressbook per carddav account. If one of your users has another addressbook in his account additionaly to the one shared for all users - macOS will only syncronize one addressbook (which very likely will be the first one in alphabetical order).

For more details see here:

> <https://github.com/nextcloud/contacts/issues/399#issuecomment-468992259>
>
> i've created an "archive" address book in Contacts (Web Gui), add a contact to this "archive" addressbook.
> iOS: I see all Address...

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**Author:** ![rakekniven](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/rakekniven/32/67096_2.png) [@rakekniven](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/rakekniven)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:48pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/8 "2020-05-09T13:48:59Z")

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> [@christiaan](#):
>
> Will the above approach allow everybody to sync contacts to Contacts.app in macOS without any problems (using the macOS/iOS profile configuration?

Yes, it works pretty well. Using it on two iMacs, more iPads and even more iPhones.

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**Author:** ![christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/christiaan/32/5795_2.png) [@christiaan](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/christiaan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/9 "2020-05-11T08:21:03Z")

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> [@rakekniven](#):
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> Yes, it works pretty well. Using it on two iMacs, more iPads and even more iPhones.

Are you able to sync macOS Contacts.app with Nextcloud Contacts groups and vice versa? I’m finding mine don’t sync in either direction.

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> [@christiaan](#):
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> macOS Contacts.app with Nextcloud Contacts groups

No, the groups in Nextcloud are not available in macOS contacts. They information is synched, but the groups are not usable.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 11:43am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/one-address-book-between-all-users/80814/11 "2020-05-11T11:43:33Z")

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> [@rakekniven](#):
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> No, the groups in Nextcloud are not available in macOS contacts. They information is synched, but the groups are not usable.

Weirdly, what I’ve found is that macOS contacts groups don’t appear in the Contacts app in Nextcloud, but they do sync to other users of macOS Contacts.app.

Not sure how that works, seems like very strange behaviour, but that’s just what we need as we won’t really be using the Nextcloud interface much.

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> [@christiaan](#):
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> Weirdly, what I’ve found is that macOS contacts groups don’t appear in the Contacts app in Nextcloud, but they do sync to other users of macOS Contacts.app.
> 
> Not sure how that works, seems like very strange behaviour, but that’s just what we need as we won’t really be using the Nextcloud interface much.

macOS stores groups as a contact with the name of that group. This is not caldav - it is just the way Apple does it.  
In your Nextcloud-Webinterface you will see a contact with the name of the group and no content (this is caldav!). If that contact is synced to other Apple-Devices, they show it as a group instead of a contact like Nextcloud does.  
Since you don’t use the webinterface much it shouldn’t bother you. It is just good to know to not delete that group-contact if you stumble over it in the webinterface.

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Awesome, thanks for that explanation Bernie.

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