I had a somewhat unpopular thread here, where I tried to coarce the Nextcloud team to add the ability to support them in monetary terms for us, who don’t code, but love the Nextcloud arsenal.
Once again I’m raising this issue, after it turned out, that the Nextcloud Android ap stripping the geotags for more than a months now, from the uploaded photos. An issua again so severe, that many would consider moving from NC to some other solution for photo storage.
That’s mainly only an issue for home and personal users.
BUT,
The recent workflow crippleing issue for the Nextcloud windows client last year which took a month to solve. (the totally broken UI)
The camera feed won’t come up between two android devices in Talk and totally ignoring that issue for more than two years now, I even proposed a workaround solution for that, but nothing happened.
These very painfull issues prompting me to once again raise awarness of the issues around Nextcloud’s QC.
I understand the very much appreciate all the hard hard work that devs putting into this project and it is trully a one of a kind solution and all the kudos to the devs.
But I fear these issues hinder Nextcloud’s opportunity to mass adoption. I understand that maintaining a server takes effort from my part as well and I’m happy to do that, but when the client side apps have these kind of issues, which I can not solve, since I’m not an Adroid dev for ie. I wonder if I would really bring Nextcloud into my organization.
So once again I’m asking Nextcloud to broaden the QC process to avoid these kind of issues in the future. If the corporate client’s money is not enough for this. Give us the opportunity to put money into our favorite project, that enables us to get rid of the Googles of the world.
Thanks for your call, and your somewhat nuanced way of bringing your frustration.
Without wanting to derail your thread, I have one point to chime in;
It is exactly the Googles of this world that are afraid of this to happen, that is the reason for the first and last point you mention (geotags, Android dev).
@NextCees and me tried to debug why he was unable to upload certain files from his phone, while I was able to do so.
It turns out that the issue is the same as the one you mention with the metadata: Google does not allow the Nextcloud client access to most files on your phone. It does allow access to some media files, but will strip metadata “as a service to the user”, apparently unless you turn of “Safe sharing”
hi,
I work at Nextcloud but I’m not writing as the official reply from Nextcloud. In some areas of Nextcloud it is known that the quality could be more robust and we are within the resources that we have (we are not the size of Google in terms of employees) to make improvements. There are some initiatives going on in the clients area, but the issues won’t be resolved overnight, unfortunately. Over last year I know that the small team has battled some very hard to solve bugs in that code area, and I know there are still some left. I understand a lot that it is frustrating if software doesn’t work as reliably as you need it to for your use case.
Nextcloud is open source and that if you use it you get no guarantees about it’s quality, you can’t demand warranty. That’s in the license.
If you would like things to improve, the advantage is though that you can contribute on GitHub, either through doing development work yourself, paying a developer, or if you are using Nextcloud professionally to pay for a support subscription, and this way you can effectively “coerce” the team to fix your issues.
Long story short, I agree with you that there are in some areas quality problems, I’m sorry you are having them.
Thank you for the answer.
Oh my god this is an androis side issue??? I’m stuned, f*ck off google… We need a nextcloud phone, than!
Jokes aside, thank you for sharing it with me, these updates from the OSs maintainers are infuriating.
So that was on google and not on nextcloud, but my two other examples sadly still stands. (releaseing the windows client with broken ui and the video calling on android)
With many stuff running in the cloud or being more or less auto-updated (e.g. Android security updates) and continously increasing stack of stuff, it is often difficult to stay up with recent changes (I had a customer who was blocked for 2 weeks after cloud service provider changed APIs without announcing the changes in time). This is in general a rising problem. Although I am developer, I have not worked on php projects for many years and I feel not able to implement fixes or improvements (apart from currently missing the time).
I understood from the reply of @Daphne, that anybody could hire a developer or use one of these platforms where freelancers can pull work to implement appropriate requirements. Honestly I am not a very fan of that. My experience tells me, that a more stable team that can also think more in long-term leads to better quality software. Nowadays I am pretty annoyed by all that short-term thinking in the world in general.
Further I prefer a slower but continously stable improvement over a fast pace following every new trend.
