Information on rights management/Informationen zur Rechteverwaltung

ENGLISH version below.

Hallo, zunächst einmal:
Dies ist mein erster Beitrag hier. Die Plattform scheint sowohl Englisch als auch Deutsch zu sein. Was macht mehr Sinn? Meine Fragen auf Deutsch oder auf Englisch zu stellen?
Jetzt die Frage: Ich suche “allgemeine Informationen, wie Nextcloud die Rechteverwaltung handhabt”. Hintergrund: Bei meiner Nextcloud passiert Folgendes: Wenn Person A einen Ordner für die Personen B und C freigibt, können diese Personen die Dateien in dem Ordner sehen. Wenn Person C jetzt eine Datei in den Ordner kopiert, kann aber nur Person A diese Datei sehen und die Person B nicht. Wie kann das sein?
Wo finde ich die “Infos zur Rechteverwaltung” möglichst übersichtlich zusammengefasst?
Danke fĂĽr eure Hilfe!

Hello, this is my first post here. The platform seems to be both English and German. What makes more sense? To ask my questions in German or in English?
Now the question: I am looking for “general information on how Nextcloud handles rights management”. Background: The following happens on my Nextcloud: If person A shares a folder with people B and C, these people can see the files in the folder. If person C now copies a file into the folder, only person A can see the file and person B cannot. How can this be?
Where can I find the theme “rights management” summarized as clearly as possible?
Thank you for yur answer.

Hint: if someone wants to answer in german - this is no problem. But this makes the thread move to german subcategory.

Files shares are usually handle restrictive and a user has to explicitly share a file to other if this is desired. You seem to look for a kind of group folder which can be used by several users to share files. If this is the case the Group folders app seems to be what you’re looking for.

It is always better to post in English language because it increases the chance to get a reply, because of a bigger audience :wink:

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Hi je-ed, thank you for your reply. If I understand you right, this feature neads to be installed seperatly via the “Group folders app” - right? It is not part of the “basic installation”?

Yes, that’s right.

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@j-ed is this by design? for me it sounds little surprising if I share a folder I have to re-share files somebody added there…

Yes, that’s by design, because by default all items (folders/files) are owned by a single user who has to decide to whom he want to share the data with. For group sharing the Groups app has been created.

@j-ed you are participating in this project much longer than me, don’t get me wrong, I want to understand the underlying decision. if I’m completely wrong please point me to the the design document or discussion why this is done this way…

If I get it right you say new files created by user granted access to a shared folder by are not shared by default.

This results in a situation if you are

  • A and want to share e.g. project documents to multiple users B C D E F
  • users who have access to your shared folder create new files in this folder
  • the owner A has to track creation of new files
  • and re-share them to the right persons…

example 1

  • A shares a folder folder to B C D E F
  • B creates new file within folder
  • C D E F have no access to file
  • A has to share the file to C D E F manually

example 2

  • A shares a folder folder to B C D E F
  • C creates new file within folder
  • B D E F have no access to file
  • A has to share the file to B D E F manually

my expectation would be that all user who have access to this project can access all documents stored in this folder.

my experience and expectation follows this logic:

  • if I share a folder, the content of this folder is available to the user/group who have access
  • the whole content of the shared folder is available to to the user/group who have access
  • new files should by default inherit the rights from the parent folder


  • A shares a folder folder to B C D E F
  • B or C or D or E or F creates new file within folder
  • A B C D E F have access to file