# Fourth Beta of Nextcloud 25 **URL:** \ **Category:** 🎁 Releases\ **Tags:** beta, nc25\ **Created:** [September 2, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886 "2022-09-02T12:52:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/blizzz/32/133_2.png) [@blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/blizzz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/1 "2022-09-02T12:52:41Z")
The fourth beta of Nextcloud 25 is now available on our download server! 🚀 As always, help with testing is very much welcome! If you notice anything out of order, please report back on the appropriate github repository! 🙇‍♀️ ### Downloads - [https://download.nextcloud.com/server/prereleases/nextcloud-25.0.0beta4.zip](https://download.nextcloud.com/server/prereleases/nextcloud-25.0.0beta4.zip) ### Changelog 25.0.0 beta 4 - [Check calendar URI length before creation (server#33139)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33139) - [Add profile config migration (server#33177)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33177) - [Remake Twitter handle saving with Vue and modularize account property components (server#33217)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33217) - [Fix various accessibility issues (server#33259)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33259) - [Remake location property saving with Vue (server#33285)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33285) - [Remake website property saving with Vue (server#33310)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33310) - [Remake phone number property saving with Vue (server#33311)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33311) - [Fix handling of internal errors when uploading theming files (server#33332)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33332) - [Feature: use the viewer to render single file shares (server#33347)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33347) - [Add back TokenCleanupJob to invalidate old temporary tokens (server#33375)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33375) - [#33036 [Bug]: Set default expiration date (server#33396)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33396) - [Remake profile picture saving with Vue (server#33409)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33409) - [Port password settings to vue (server#33429)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33429) - [Remove broken function resetStorage from test cases (server#33430)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33430) - [Make the description of `trashbin_retention_obligation` more clear (server#33470)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33470) - [L10n: Changed grammar (server#33475)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33475) - [Backend for reference metadata fetching (server#33494)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33494) - [Add marker interface to mark system mount points for encryption (server#33500)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33500) - [Bump @nextcloud/vue to 6.0.0-beta.4 and related (server#33516)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33516) - [⚗ Proof of concept: Redesign app-content (server#33568)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33568) - [Fix creation of new user and display the correct error message (server#33625)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33625) - [Port Repair and Migrator events to IEventDispatcher (server#33640)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33640) - [Fix primary element color variables (server#33641)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33641) - [Fix ETAG returned by bulk upload (server#33659)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33659) - [Fallback to root if the picker folder doesn’t exists (server#33681)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33681) - [Make it possible to load theme//dist (server#33694)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33694) - [Improve bulk upload and add a config switch for it (server#33697)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33697) - [Remove old ie polify (server#33699)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33699) - [Fix weather icon (server#33702)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33702) - [Fix status button background on dashboard (server#33706)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33706) - [Avoid size changes on web ui update (server#33707)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33707) - [Fix copy in view-only mode (server#33713)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33713) - [Add composer.lock for integration tests (server#33714)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33714) - [Move app menu to vue (server#33728)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33728) - [Remove deprecated at matcher in tests/lib part 2 (server#33732)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33732) - [Remove leading slash for search results at mountpoint root (server#33734)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33734) - [Add a11y attributes for legacy app navigation (server#33746)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33746) - [Add a way to open the admin settings overview directly (server#33756)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33756) - [Cache cloud id data in CloudIdManager (server#33764)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33764) - [[master] Update psalm-baseline.xml (server#33767)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33767) - [Fix wording of undeliverable push notifications (server#33770)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33770) - [Fix eslint run command (server#33771)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33771) - [Log if cookie login failed with token mismatch or session unavailability (server#33772)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33772) - [Handle cases where the hash context gets cleaned up before the hash wrapper (server#33774)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33774) - [Fix unit tests (server#33778)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33778) - [Filter index.php from cloudId (server#33780)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33780) - [Add event to load scripts for reference rendering (server#33818)](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33818) - [Add fusonic/opengraph (3rdparty#1131)](https://github.com/nextcloud/3rdparty/pull/1131) - [Bump phpunit/phpunit from 9.5.21 to 9.5.23 (activity#893)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/893) - [Bump @nextcloud/logger from 2.2.1 to 2.3.0 (activity#894)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/894) - [[master] Update christophwurst/nextcloud dependency (activity#895)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/895) - [Add role=navigation and aria-current (activity#899)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/899) - [Fix broken select/label ID/name mismatch (activity#900)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/900) - [Move to app content as the scroll container (activity#901)](https://github.com/nextcloud/activity/pull/901) - [Bump @nextcloud/logger from 2.2.1 to 2.3.0 (files\_pdfviewer#648)](https://github.com/nextcloud/files_pdfviewer/pull/648) - [Bump @nextcloud/initial-state from 1.2.1 to 2.0.0 (firstrunwizard#734)](https://github.com/nextcloud/firstrunwizard/pull/734) - [Bump react from 18.0.0 to 18.2.0 (logreader#740)](https://github.com/nextcloud/logreader/pull/740) - [Bump moment from 2.29.3 to 2.29.4 (logreader#757)](https://github.com/nextcloud/logreader/pull/757) - [Bump @babel/core from 7.18.10 to 7.18.13 (logreader#774)](https://github.com/nextcloud/logreader/pull/774) - [Fix background email job for disabled users (notifications#1255)](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1255) - [Bump @nextcloud/initial-state from 1.2.1 to 2.0.0 (notifications#1258)](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1258) - [Fix duplicate ID on settings page (notifications#1261)](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1261) - [Bump vue, vue-template-compiler and @nextcloud/vue (notifications#1264)](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1264) - [Warn about undelivered notifications (notifications#1265)](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1265) - [Bump phpunit/phpunit from 9.5.21 to 9.5.23 (password\_policy#380)](https://github.com/nextcloud/password_policy/pull/380) - [Bump camelcase from 6.3.0 to 7.0.0 (photos#1113)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1113) - [Bump postcss-loader from 6.2.1 to 7.0.1 (photos#1136)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1136) - [Bump moment from 2.29.3 to 2.29.4 (photos#1144)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1144) - [Update npm and node engines versions (photos#1151)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1151) - [Bump vue and vue-template-compiler (photos#1159)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1159) - [Refactor: Use a global AbortController (photos#1162)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1162) - [Bump vue-router from 3.5.3 to 3.6.4 (photos#1167)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1167) - [Bump @nextcloud/dialogs from 3.1.2 to 3.2.0 (photos#1168)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1168) - [Bump @nextcloud/auth from 1.3.0 to 2.0.0 (photos#1169)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1169) - [Bump @nextcloud/browserslist-config from 2.2.0 to 2.3.0 (photos#1170)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1170) - [Bump jest from 28.1.1 to 29.0.0 (photos#1171)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1171) - [Bump autoprefixer from 10.4.7 to 10.4.8 (photos#1172)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1172) - [Bump @nextcloud/webpack-vue-config from 5.1.0 to 5.3.0 (photos#1173)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1173) - [Bump @nextcloud/stylelint-config from 2.1.2 to 2.2.0 (photos#1174)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1174) - [Bump workbox-webpack-plugin from 6.5.3 to 6.5.4 (photos#1175)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1175) - [Bump @nextcloud/event-bus from 2.1.1 to 3.0.0 (photos#1176)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1176) - [Bump @nextcloud/axios from 1.10.0 to 2.0.0 (photos#1177)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1177) - [Bump vue-material-design-icons from 5.0.0 to 5.1.2 (photos#1179)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1179) - [Bump @nextcloud/initial-state from 1.2.1 to 2.0.0 (photos#1180)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1180) - [Bump jest-environment-jsdom from 28.1.1 to 29.0.0 (photos#1181)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1181) - [Bump @nextcloud/logger from 2.2.0 to 2.3.0 (photos#1182)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1182) - [Bump @nextcloud/vue from 5.3.1 to 5.4.0 (photos#1183)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1183) - [Bump webdav to ^4 (photos#1184)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1184) - [Bump jest-environment-jsdom from 29.0.0 to 29.0.1 (photos#1185)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1185) - [Bump jest from 29.0.0 to 29.0.1 (photos#1186)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1186) - [Implement default Photos folder (photos#1189)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1189) - [Don’t translate {startDate} (photos#1190)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1190) - [Rework tags view (photos#1191)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1191) - [L10n: Changed Photos to lowercase (photos#1193)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1193) - [Implement upload in Folder (photos#1194)](https://github.com/nextcloud/photos/pull/1194) - [Bump phpunit/phpunit from 9.5.21 to 9.5.23 (privacy#785)](https://github.com/nextcloud/privacy/pull/785) - [Bump @nextcloud/browserslist-config from 2.2.0 to 2.3.0 (recommendations#548)](https://github.com/nextcloud/recommendations/pull/548) - [Bump @nextcloud/webpack-vue-config from 5.2.1 to 5.3.0 (recommendations#549)](https://github.com/nextcloud/recommendations/pull/549) - [Bump @nextcloud/stylelint-config from 2.1.2 to 2.2.0 (recommendations#550)](https://github.com/nextcloud/recommendations/pull/550) - [Port away from scss (serverinfo#390)](https://github.com/nextcloud/serverinfo/pull/390) - [Bump phpunit/phpunit from 9.5.21 to 9.5.23 (survey\_client#141)](https://github.com/nextcloud/survey_client/pull/141) - [Avoid saving without changes (text#2686)](https://github.com/nextcloud/text/pull/2686) - [Add user mentions feature (text#2748)](https://github.com/nextcloud/text/pull/2748) - [Feature: Add page anchors (inter page links) (text#2841)](https://github.com/nextcloud/text/pull/2841) - [Do not try to get a displayname for guests (text#2849)](https://github.com/nextcloud/text/pull/2849) - [Fix: readonly shares should not seem editable (text#2851)](https://github.com/nextcloud/text/pull/2851) - [Add psalm workflow (updater#423)](https://github.com/nextcloud/updater/pull/423) - [Check updater.phar is up to date in check-same-code-base job (updater#432)](https://github.com/nextcloud/updater/pull/432) - [Enable opening a single shared file (viewer#1242)](https://github.com/nextcloud/viewer/pull/1242) - [Fix closing a file info preview (viewer#1348)](https://github.com/nextcloud/viewer/pull/1348) - [Fix download URL of non-dav files (viewer#1349)](https://github.com/nextcloud/viewer/pull/1349) - [Fix opening non-dav audio, gif and video (viewer#1350)](https://github.com/nextcloud/viewer/pull/1350) - [Flex wrap controls on small width (viewer#1351)](https://github.com/nextcloud/viewer/pull/1351) ---
**Author:** ![Foxly](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/foxly/32/40690_2.png) [@Foxly](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/Foxly)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/3 "2022-09-02T18:57:20Z")
The settings as administrator are completely unusable, scrolling is no longer possible. The theming is not taken over. This will certainly be fixed in a future version, but since Beta 4 it seems more unfinished than Beta 3. ![NC25-Beta4_1](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/c/2c309b0bbd36276e149b0632ab0b0f61dd050543.jpeg) ![NC25-Beta4_2](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/2/a/2ae2f6f64cafa4d210e4c33a48c1a58da04a60b3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/blizzz/32/133_2.png) [@blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/blizzz)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/4 "2022-09-02T19:12:30Z")
I think the scrolling bug was [already fixed](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/pull/33827/files). But yes, there was some bigger stuff going in into this beta. ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/5 "2022-09-03T00:55:24Z")
Seems to work fine for me in one minimal instance as well as in my test instance with many apps installed: ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/f/5fa160b314272770ffddea06fcdd6e1fe2f8a7b9.png) ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 12:58am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/6 "2022-09-03T00:58:16Z")
@blizzz Was already taken care of the “Accessibility” app being removed upon upgrades? I mentioned that but never got around to open a bug for it, did not see it in the beta changes yet have no time to install an old instance just to be able to test. I have two stage instances to test left, but wanted to confirm first whether it has been taken care of prior to testing. ---
**Author:** ![Foxly](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/foxly/32/40690_2.png) [@Foxly](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/Foxly)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/7 "2022-09-03T09:34:48Z")
> [@nursoda](#): > > Seems to work fine for me in one minimal instance as well as in my test instance with many apps installed: Was the instance installed as beta 4, or was this an upgrade from beta 1 → 2 → 3 to four? My screenshots are from a version that was updated from beta 1 to 2, 3 and four. I tested it with Chrome, Firefox and the current Safari. ---
**Author:** ![szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/szaimen/32/63019_2.png) [@szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/szaimen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:37am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/8 "2022-09-03T09:37:57Z")
The accessibility app was merged into the theming app so this is a false-positive as the app was removed but the functionality not! (See `Erscheinunbsbild und Barrierefreiheit` on the left side in the settings.) ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:54am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/9 "2022-09-03T09:54:53Z")
I learned that when asking after beta1 release. However, my concern is that the upgrade process should actively remove the accessibility app since if it remains, it is listed as incompatible app. ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:55am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/10 "2022-09-03T09:55:35Z")
Yes, I did all upgrade steps once they got out, just as you did. ---
**Author:** ![szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/szaimen/32/63019_2.png) [@szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/szaimen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/11 "2022-09-03T10:21:26Z")
What updater are you using? ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 10:40am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/12 "2022-09-03T10:40:01Z")
Ouch, good point, I used my own script – which does a basic cleanup but apart from that a “copy over”. So, if it’s covered in the web updater and via occ, then you should be good. Sorry for the noise. I’ll test in one of the stage instances and report back here if I encounter an issue. ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 10:42am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/13 "2022-09-03T10:42:04Z")
There still are some open theming issues in beta 4, like black icons on dark gray background, even for system apps such as backup\_codes: ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/f/9ff852486d3c90ac7c770285fc06cbe9907e0f90.png) ---
**Author:** ![szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/szaimen/32/63019_2.png) [@szaimen](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/szaimen)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/14 "2022-09-03T11:23:45Z")
Thanks! But I guess that most visual regressions should already be reported via [Issues · nextcloud/server · GitHub](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aui-refresh-feedback). However feel free to report additional if you should see more. Thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bb77](https://help.nextcloud.com/letter_avatar/bb77/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@bb77](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/bb77)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/15 "2022-09-03T11:29:41Z")
> [@Foxly](#): > > The settings as administrator are completely unusable, scrolling is no longer possible. > The theming is not taken over. I had to clear the browser cache. After doing that the new theme was displayed correctly and the scrollbar was also present. ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/16 "2022-09-03T21:42:19Z")
The web updater indeed deleted the accessibility app on my instance when upgrading, as designed. For the record: Migration path was 24.0.4→24.0.5RC1→25beta4 Yet, unfortunately I hit an issue trying to use the web updater: After maintenance mode got disabled by the web installer (and prior to migrations), the browser kept blank yielding error 500 in dev console. nextcloud log says: `{"reqId":"","level":3,"time":"2022-09-03T23:20:45+02:00","remoteAddr":"","user":"--","app":"PHP","method":"GET","url":"/","message":"Declaration of OCA\\Talk\\Share\\RoomShareProvider::getSharesInFolder($userId, OCP\\Files\\Folder $node, $reshares): array must be compatible with OCP\\Share\\IShareProvider::getSharesInFolder($userId, OCP\\Files\\Folder $node, $reshares, $shallow = true) at //apps/spreed/lib/Share/RoomShareProvider.php#520","userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:104.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/104.0","version":"24.0.5.0","data":{"app":"PHP"}}` So i disabled spreed from the console: `occ app:disable spreed` After that, reloading the web updater continued and showed the migration todo list: ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/4/64bbd839c8dbb71fe7d295757a6911a9b82a7e6d.png) However, although I have a big screen: Without reducing zoom so I could not see or access that start button – the scrollbar is missing on that page … also applies to the (same, just modified) results page (I needed to zoom to 40% to see all, yet then I couldn’t read it any more 😆): ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/b/0b95a7eb72dcd72e963ae616c09502fb4ac05c91.png) When checking for Talk in /settings/apps I noticed that Talk/spreed needs to be updated to 15beta, and after updating, reloading (to get rid of “untested app” and activating it, all is good as new. I assume that after Talk 15 is released for NC24+25, it would have been updated prior to attempting to migrate, so this should go smooth then. Right? ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/17 "2022-09-03T22:13:20Z")
Another question: In the stage instance that I updated using the web updater, I now saw for the first time how the design is meant to be (although I’m pretty sure that beta4 is quite unfinished in that respect): ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/4/e40ab4567de5634ac9971a8ef6e176812a4591b9.png) Here, the background is shown behind the top bar icons (and transparent behind the app categories, yet non-transparent in the files app). Not so in my test instance that I upgraded manually (following the steps in docs): ![grafik](https://help.nextcloud.com/uploads/default/original/3X/e/1/e18c09447c9cf5c2fea3f78df8bb81a2feb3f62a.png) To be sure, I re-loaded the flame bg image ① now (after the update), cleared bowser cache and shift-reloaded the page. No change: Still the nasa earch/moon image ② is in the back. That space picture is set as background in the dashboard (only) and should not be used in settings! After quite some experimenting, I noticed that any newly loaded (and shown!) background image is only permanently saved after any other field in that dialog (like “Slogan”) is changed. * * * Completely independent of the background issue: While screenshotting, I got a notification request of “Nextcloud GmbH” (linking to `https://nextcloud.com/pushnotifications`) in that test instance (red dot on the bell of this, I accepted it) ③. Clicking on that Link redirects to [Contact - Nextcloud](https://nextcloud.com/contact/) … Is that link to the contact page on purpose? What the heck? ---
**Author:** ![blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/blizzz/32/133_2.png) [@blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/blizzz)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/18 "2022-09-05T15:51:42Z")
> [@nursoda](#): > > {“reqId”:“”,“level”:3,“time”:“2022-09-03T23:20:45+02:00”,“remoteAddr”:“”,“user”:“–”,“app”:“PHP”,“method”:“GET”,“url”:“/”,“message”:"Declaration of OCA\Talk\Share\RoomShareProvider::getSharesInFolder($userId, OCP\Files\Folder $node, $reshares): array must be compatible with OCP\Share\IShareProvider::getSharesIn Talk (and other apps) should be upgraded to the fitting versions if available during the server upgrade ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/19 "2022-09-05T16:50:31Z")
Is the list of critical changes frozen? If not, when will it be? Is there a general rule? Are these all relevant places? [Dev manual “Upgrade to 25”](https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/developer_manual/app_publishing_maintenance/app_upgrade_guide/upgrade_to_25.html) → [Critical changes for Nextcloud 25](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/32117) → [New theming](https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/32060) ---
**Author:** ![blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/blizzz/32/133_2.png) [@blizzz](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/blizzz)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/20 "2022-09-05T19:55:42Z")
It’s freezing slowly, with the RC it should be definite. ---
**Author:** ![nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/user_avatar/help.nextcloud.com/nursoda/32/1044_2.png) [@nursoda](https://help.nextcloud.com/u/nursoda)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886/21 "2022-09-09T08:53:33Z")
> Notification area → “Nextcloud GmbH” This is [addressed](https://github.com/nextcloud/notifications/pull/1271) in beta5. [Next page](https://help.nextcloud.com/t/fourth-beta-of-nextcloud-25/144886.md?page=2)