Estimating a Physical Machine's Capacity for Nextcloud VMs

I am writing a grant for student access to nextcloud VMs. I need to budget for physical machines. The question is, how can I estimate the number of VMs running just Nextcloud Hub without Talk that can be supported by a single physical machine?

Any insight is appreciated, however partial. For instance, if you have experience with particular hardware supporting several Nextcloud VMs, please share! Of course, I’m also interested more generally in how the number of VMs scales with a combination of the PMs attributes, like number of cores and amount of memory.

David

Perhaps this is not a good document for you. But i want share it with you:

An insiders look into scaling Nextcloud (Matthias Wobben)
https://indico.cern.ch/event/663264/contributions/2818170/attachments/1592445/2520694/An_insiders_look_into_scaling_Nextcloud_-_Matthias_Wobben.pdf

Why do you need to run them in VM’s? It would be a LOT less load on the system just to provide a virtual host for each nextcloud instance. You could basically run an unlimited number of nextcloud instances on a single machine, bounded only by the traffic load and storage capacity.

Two cores (threads if supported) of a modern CPU and 2GB of RAM should do just fine (2C/2GB).
So, a computer with a 8C/16T CPU and 16 GB RAM can run 8 basic NC VMs…

That is assuming you run a Type-1 hypervisor (e.g. ESXi) off of a USB…

If your license supports overprovisioning, you can probably run 50% more (12 VMs).

I do have such setup on a Dell OptiPlex - Nextcloud, ownCloud, coTURN, OnlyOffice, WordPress, Jitsi, BBB, Asterisk separate servers…Working fine.

This is a really helpful example of what TUD did to scale a larger deployment. Thank you for sharing this.

We see value in the experience of students setting up their own self-hosted instances on VMs, but I do take your point.

I like this


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Distributed computing at its best! What the internet is all about!!

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Thank you! (Your assumption on the hypervisor is right). I would have thought that memory was the bottleneck, with very modest CPU requirements for the kind of basic Nextcloud instances we’re running. Have you bumped up against a CPU bottleneck with machines that have more than enough memory? I want to get as much “bang for the buck” per physical machine as possible.

No, I haven’t. But the mentioned setup is my personal.
At work we use Dell PE740 all-flash vSAN clusters and run few instances of Nextcloud.
But all of them are for small groups of people, behind a vASA firewall (AnyConnect).

Separately we have one for Talk+HPB and file sharing for students…

We are not short on CPU power, always use 8 cores at least…
(I work at a university).