Best cheap hardware to run Nextcloud on?


#243

Hello, is there any image for Rockpro64? I’ve tried the image for the Rock64 on a sd card but it’s not booting. Any advice for those which own a RockPro64?
Thank you
George


#244

you can generate the images easily if the board is supported by Armbian. If there’s enough demand I can generate them and upload them


#245

One question, please. Have Rock64 full support of Debian throught ARMbian?

Will it have dates?


#246

there has been good support for the Rock64 for a while. Look at nextcloudpi.com


#247

To be honest I am super skeptical. They’ve tried x86 before and every time it was a failure. I just don’t think that what Intel makes is very suitable for little home servers, in part because it just doesn’t fit with the margins Intel wants to make. A Rock64 with 4gb ram incl shipping is about 90 euro here in Germany, not cheap, but you get a server that is extremely capable of running Nextcloud… I don’t think a x86 adds enough extra performance to be worth the trouble or cost, but of course that should be tested :wink:


#248

I agree that the extra CPU performance might not justify the (likely) extra price, but having more or less all software work out of the box (for example OnlyOffice runs only on x86) and not having to worry if there will be a custom kernel release for your favorite distro is worth quite a bit. Also this allows much more RAM and much more& faster storage with the connection options. Of course all that comes at a price, but at this embedded level intel seems to run a much tighter margin than elsewhere (according to Hardkernel the Intel CPU was the more cost efficient option at least compared to AMD).


#249

Hello nachoparker, would you please help me generating an image for rockpro64? Thank you. George


#250

sure, learn to generate Armbian images, and the rest is pretty easy :wink:

I can generate rockpro64 images if there is demand for it, and I get people to test them each release.


#251

Benchmarks of that new x86 Odroid:
https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-ODROID-H2-Benchmarks
Cost seems to be $111 (not including RAM).


#252

I’m interested in rockpro64 images as well. Would gladly help you to test them


#253

XU4 (Cloudshell2 and HC2) work solid with NextcloudPi! and were $55 for the systems - not including the HDD and the cases. Best of all is that Nacho provides easy to use docker and burnable images to just start with. And I have scripts that process all JPGs, (images of any type) into PDFs and then OCR them for better search processing. Imagemagick and ocrmypdf works fine with 8 cores.


NCP on a RockPro64
#254

@minnix @George_CRD it seems like there’s preliminary support now

https://www.armbian.com/rockpro64/

Are you guys still interested?


#255

@nachoparker, Yes I am!

Just ordered a new RockPro64 and the NAS case. I ordered directly form Pine64 and it’s getting shipped from China so it’ll be a while getting here. I figure I won’t have all the parts for about 3 or 4 weeks. I’ll let you know when it all comes in so you can build an image.


#256

Here it is

https://ownyourbits.com/downloads/testing/NextCloudPi_RockPro64_02-11-19/


#257

Yay. :slight_smile:

I’m starting to warm up to Pine64 a bit more (as a company to trust), as they seem to be reaching out to the Linux community more.

They’ve made several recent gestures of goodwill in various forums (and they were at this year’s FOSDEM), which have impressed me. Of course, time will tell what they actually deliver, and not just promise. They seem genuinely interested in listening to the needs of Linux users like us.

I think they see how crucially important that community support is to the Raspberry Pi, so they want to similarly build a community if they can.

Dear Pine64, if you’re out there listening, I beseech you to make upstream contributions to the Linux mainline kernel, to make all your boards work silky smooth in distros like Armbian. That’ll get the Linux geeks running in droves to your boards.

I’m not asking for more difficult things like hardware accelerated graphics in a Desktop environment. Just any and all drivers that a headless Nextcloud server would want to use, especially related to Storage I/O, Network I/O, CPU throttling, temperature sensors, etc. You know, server stuff.

For example, here’s one such nasty bug, currently. And here’s another.


#258

Hello @nachoparker, @Jeffery_Frederick, @minnix, @George_CRD, and others who find the RockPro64 interesting,
There’s a dedicated thread about running Nextcloud on the RockPro64 over on the Pine64 forum. By posting your experiences there, you might attract advice, etc. from that community.


#259

I think it’s also worth noting that the Rock64 is officially “Supported” by Armbian, but the RockPro64 is one step down from that, called “Suitable For Testing (Work In Progress)”.

The Rock64 only quite recently graduated from “Suitable For Testing (Work In Progress)” to “Supported”. These designations act as quite a reliable vetting, IMHO. I’m a bit more conservative than most, and try to stick to the “Supported” ARM boards.


#260

Yep, I’m aware of that thread. I will update once I’ve gotten my RockPro64 and testing NCP with it.


#261

Armbian is working on full support for the RockPro64. It just takes time…

I used Armbian on my Rock64 before it graduated to “Supported” and it worked fine. I plan on doing the same with the RockPro64. I’ll also be sending feedback and any troubleshooting needed to assist the Armbian team as needed to move the RockPro64 to “Supported” status.


#262

Awesome, @Jeffery_Frederick.

Good news. WRT the nasty PCIe bug (for the RockPro64) I linked to above, there is active kernel development by a user on the Pine64 forum called ‘Mrfixit2001’, and he’s stated he will push his kernel fixes back upstream into github.

Yay, Mrfixit2001, I say. :grinning:

Without rock-solid PCIe support, then the RockPro64 isn’t really any more compelling than a cheaper Rock64, IMHO, since in both cases, USB 3 is (currently) all you’ve got to attach some faster bulk storage to (for use with Nextcloud).